Let's solve the tax problem without Volcker

Quote from Trader666:

You've already shown how biased and uninformed you are by saying you have no interest in reading a report that you foolishly assume is a cover-up based on Tillman (which has absolutely nothing to do with this), so reading it probably won't do you any good.

But tell me... if the video is such clear, standalone "proof" of murder and war crimes, then why has US Central Command announced they're not going to reopen the investigation even though the video has been made public? Is it now official US policy to condone murder and war crimes? And please spare me any delusional cover-up or conspiracy theories because the military is, after all, prosecuting 3 Navy SEALs for punching a suspected terrorist.
the military has a long history of dragging their feet on these cases. just as they did in the tillman case. lest you forget the tillman case showed the coverup went right to the top of military command in the field at the time.
 
Quote from jficquette:

SIAP but the vat tax will be rebated to "poor people" thru income tax credits.

Dont know what SIAP means, but there is no possible way for "poorpeople" to be rebated based on a sales tax, which would not mean flat out giving them money.

As it stands poor people dont pay taxes anyways, so the only way in which you could balance the books for poor people would be if there was a situation where by these people actually got paid a certain amount yearly, which would be similar to welfare.

The much more probable scenario is them implementing the tax with absolutely no benefit to poor people, thus further crippling poor people. It will end up being similar to sales tax and just be a new way to rape the consumer, and inflate the dollar.

Bottom line is that it will not happen as these taxes are much more destructive to poor people than to middle class/rich people because poor people spend 100% of their income on consumption where as rich/midddle class atleast save some of their income.
 
Quote from Hello:

As it stands poor people dont pay taxes anyways, s

The much more probable scenario is them implementing the tax with absolutely no benefit to poor people, thus further crippling poor people.


Why is the purpose of the tax code to "benefit poor people"? Tax is about collecting money to pay the govt's bills.

They already receive many benefits - welfare, food stamps, EIC, heating oil/energy subsidies, Medicaid, section 8 housing, free retraining, and a lot of other stuff. I have no problem with those who are incapable of working, but we have a lot of people who are multi-generational govt-supported families, and I would just as soon see them migrate elsewhere.

Somewhere was just stated that the lower 55-60% pay zero taxes. It is hardly crippling people if a tax does not "benefit" or "compensate" the poor. Income redistribution is a lousy purpose of taxes or govt. They manage to lose a lot of money along the way.

Whatever happened to the concept that if the able-bodied did not work, they did not eat?
 
The Tillman case was nothing like this so your comparison is bogus. How long would they have dragged their feet if a "smoking gun" video of Tillman's shooting was released world-wide?

You claim this video is standalone evidence of murder and war crimes. Yet AFTER the video was made public, the military announced it's NOT reopening the investigation. This is the same military that's prosecuting 3 Navy SEALS for punching a suspected terrorist.

Your refusal to read the investigation proves your bias and ignorance, especially since the video was used in the investigation to corroborate or deny eye witness testimony.

So not only has this been dropped, even if libtard politicians did somehow force a new investigation, little if anything would come of it... certainly not convictions for your hysterical accusations.
Quote from Free Thinker:

the military has a long history of dragging their feet on these cases. just as they did in the tillman case. lest you forget the tillman case showed the coverup went right to the top of military command in the field at the time.
 
I agree with you 100%, is was just pointing out how hypocritical the dems are when they talk about a vat tax, while preaching they are out there to help the little guy.

Quote from TraderZones:

Why is the purpose of the tax code to "benefit poor people"? Tax is about collecting money to pay the govt's bills.

They already receive many benefits - welfare, food stamps, EIC, heating oil/energy subsidies, Medicaid, section 8 housing, free retraining, and a lot of other stuff. I have no problem with those who are incapable of working, but we have a lot of people who are multi-generational govt-supported families, and I would just as soon see them migrate elsewhere.

Somewhere was just stated that the lower 55-60% pay zero taxes. It is hardly crippling people if a tax does not "benefit" or "compensate" the poor. Income redistribution is a lousy purpose of taxes or govt. They manage to lose a lot of money along the way.

Whatever happened to the concept that if the able-bodied did not work, they did not eat?
 
Quote from Hello:

I agree with you 100%, is was just pointing out how hypocritical the dems are when they talk about a vat tax, while preaching they are out there to help the little guy.

I have my own version of a new tax. All:

Corporate taxes
Workmen's comp
Retirement/Social Security
Medical/Medical/Medicaid
"Green costs"
Pollution controls
Dental
Basic Life Insurance
Environmental Mandates and costs
Public Education
and other worker costs, aside from wages

are added onto the cost of all goods and all services sold within or involving the USA, whether domestic or foreign.

Basically, you take away the cost advanatges that 3rd world countries have, and take the costs off of business, which spurs a lot more employment in the USA.
 
Quote from Trader666:

Actually, we need to improve education so we don't have morons like you posting BS like this.

Despite the propaganda, some of these scum were insurgents and armed. The Reuters camera men embedded themselves with insurgents so tough for them.

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Just watching at the video (to be fair being in the helicopter may have given a different perspective) it's clear the idiotic US soldiers
didn't wait to get a clear picture of what the target was, they flew around the building and without confirming everybody there was militants they started firing, just before that they confused a camera for an RPG. Such idiots !

There were two or three people with rifles , they shot down everyone, besides just because you have a rifle doesn't make you an enemy you could be an armed civilian , or a private contractor.


But then the van shooting definitely confirmed the idiocy of those in the helicopters. It's very sad because the US soldiers can't be described as cold blooded criminals (they should be court martialed for the van) , they react under pressure to what they see but a lot of these people have simply turned off their brain or are just plain cretins, fact is if they are over there serving in an illegal war that's probably what they are.

I am just disgusted, America is really down the bottom of the barrel of humanity
 
Quote from Kicking:

Just watching at the video (to be fair being in the helicopter may have given a different perspective) it's clear the idiotic US soldiers
didn't wait to get a clear picture of what the target was, they flew around the building and without confirming everybody there was militants they started firing, just before that they confused a camera for an RPG. Such idiots !

There were two or three people with rifles , they shot down everyone, besides just because you have a rifle doesn't make you an enemy you could be an armed civilian , or a private contractor.


But then the van shooting definitely confirmed the idiocy of those in the helicopters. It's very sad because the US soldiers can't be described as cold blooded criminals (they should be court martialed for the van) , they react under pressure to what they see but a lot of these people have simply turned off their brain or are just plain cretins, fact is if they are over there serving in an illegal war that's probably what they are.

I am just disgusted, America is really down the bottom of the barrel of humanity


Defense Secretary Robert Gates acknowledged on Sunday that leaked video showing the 2007 killing by U.S. Army personnel of a gathering of civilians in Iraq is "unfortunate" and "painful to see."
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

Defense Secretary Robert Gates acknowledged on Sunday that leaked video showing the 2007 killing by U.S. Army personnel of a gathering of civilians in Iraq is "unfortunate" and "painful to see."

You are a serious piece of shit. Gates was furious that the video was out of context and didn't show the full story, unless of course you're a worthless fuck like yourself that distorts and mis-represents the facts to suit your radical leftist views. Eat shit and die!
 
Quote from Kicking:

Just watching at the video (to be fair being in the helicopter may have given a different perspective) it's clear the idiotic US soldiers
didn't wait to get a clear picture of what the target was, they flew around the building and without confirming everybody there was militants they started firing, just before that they confused a camera for an RPG. Such idiots !

There were two or three people with rifles , they shot down everyone, besides just because you have a rifle doesn't make you an enemy you could be an armed civilian , or a private contractor.


But then the van shooting definitely confirmed the idiocy of those in the helicopters. It's very sad because the US soldiers can't be described as cold blooded criminals (they should be court martialed for the van) , they react under pressure to what they see but a lot of these people have simply turned off their brain or are just plain cretins, fact is if they are over there serving in an illegal war that's probably what they are.

I am just disgusted, America is really down the bottom of the barrel of humanity

And fuck you too!
 
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