Let's put this fire out w/gasoline

[Cuddles]

Flynn's shit doesnt even have to do with Russia though Flynn's shit has to do with Turkey, plus i think i heard a liberal say this but it may have been a conservative, but in order to believe that Trump pulled off this collusion you would have to think the loud mouth who has burned himself repeatedly saying stupid shit somehow managed to not only stay tight lipped about this, but also managed to not have any of the intelligence community leak anything about it on him. The odds are so low its almost zero, its like the idiots who thought 9/11 was an inside job, or the ones who thought Obama faked his birth certificate, except with Trump its even less likely because he cant seem to keep his mouth shut about anything.

Follow the money:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/25/michael-flynn-turkey-russia-237550

Plus you seem to forget the whole favorable discussion of sanctions in contradiction to back then president Obama or that whole RT stint

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/politics/michael-flynn-payments-rt-russia-tv/

Can you do a reading on Hillary for me? I just want to see if I was right.

Middle of the road politician that got most of her fame from her ties to Bill rather than ability. Dead center on fiscal issues and left on social issues. Would've been an average presidency, but they can't all be winners.

 

[java]

Follow the money:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/25/michael-flynn-turkey-russia-237550

Plus you seem to forget the whole favorable discussion of sanctions in contradiction to back then president Obama or that whole RT stint

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/politics/michael-flynn-payments-rt-russia-tv/



Middle of the road politician that got most of her fame from her ties to Bill rather than ability. Dead center on fiscal issues and left on social issues. Would've been an average presidency, but they can't all be winners.

I guess I was wrong. I always thought something about her just didn't seem right. But then, I'm not a reader, I just go on gut feeling.

 

[Max E.]

So yes or no do you think someone within the Trump admin will be caught colluding with the Russians? Would you be willing to bet on it?

Follow the money:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/25/michael-flynn-turkey-russia-237550

Plus you seem to forget the whole favorable discussion of sanctions in contradiction to back then president Obama or that whole RT stint

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/politics/michael-flynn-payments-rt-russia-tv/

.

 

[Cuddles]

So yes or no do you think someone within the Trump admin will be caught colluding with the Russians? Would you be willing to bet on it?

Flynn is/was Trump admin ...I'm not sure he knew that whatever he did had the legal ramifications it had...which is kind of a pattern w/Trump; he's surrounded himself with stupid. Manafort hasn't registered as foreign agent because he may drag Sessions w/him. We'll see how Kushner pans out.

And as much as I'd bet on a sure thing, I'd bet on corruption more so each and every time, and with the Sessions wild card, I don't expect any to be "caught" colluding.

 

[Tsing Tao]

I'll be honest, I haven't seen evidence that would convince me w/o a shadow of a doubt, but I know human nature, I know corruption, and I'd say I'm pretty good at reading people/finding fraudsters. The trail is too big too ignore, the "coincidences" too many, and judges don't just issue subpoenas willy-nilly (for latest look at Flynn and Annapolis raid).

That, and it's 3 top most officials saying Trump asked them to shut the investigation down, every agency saying the Russians were involved, and the long trail of crumbs that has been posted here and elsewhere. I'd say I'm 85 % convinced.

Fair point, but that's not how the rule of law works. Evidence is necessary to convict or indict someone of a crime. So far it's just media whoring, anonymous tips and unverifiable "he said she said" commentary. It's well past the point of being old.

 

[Arnie]

Flynn is/was Trump admin ...I'm not sure he knew that whatever he did had the legal ramifications it had...which is kind of a pattern w/Trump; he's surrounded himself with stupid. Manafort hasn't registered as foreign agent because he may drag Sessions w/him. We'll see how Kushner pans out.

And as much as I'd bet on a sure thing, I'd bet on corruption more so each and every time, and with the Sessions wild card, I don't expect any to be "caught" colluding.

Well, shit, then he has nothing to worry about. No intent, no crime (paraphrasing Comey).

 

[java]

Fair point, but that's not how the rule of law works. Evidence is necessary to convict or indict someone of a crime. So far it's just media whoring, anonymous tips and unverifiable "he said she said" commentary. It's well past the point of being old.

And that is where I think Comey got off track. It was like he was responding to the media and worried about what they would say if he didn't speak.

 

[Cuddles]

Fair point, but that's not how the rule of law works. Evidence is necessary to convict or indict someone of a crime. So far it's just media whoring, anonymous tips and unverifiable "he said she said" commentary. It's well past the point of being old.

My point is that if they're issuing subpoenas, it's because those agencies have sufficient proof. I find the idea that nascent cases should disclose their "proof" to the public pretty laughable.

 

[Spike Trader]

It's getting hot in that convenience store..

 

[Tsing Tao]

My point is that if they're issuing subpoenas, it's because those agencies have sufficient proof. I find the idea that nascent cases should disclose their "proof" to the public pretty laughable.

That they issue subpoenas doesn't mean they have proof. It's that they want testimony as to whether proof exists or not, and to gather any possible evidence there may be.