Legality of Healthcare

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How about those not paying federal taxes lose the right to vote on the federal level?

Of course "the fair tax" is a better option altogether and eliminates this need.
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The 'haves' have too much and the 'have-nots' have too little. Some have-nots work their ASSES off for too little pay, and your solution is to take away their voting rights.
 
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For all the retards against health care reform:

How can you call a "health care system" fair/good when:

If I have insurance, the insurance company pays $10,000 for a procedure.

If I pay cash, I have to pay $50,000 for the same procedure.

And if I need to obtain individual coverage, the insurance crooks say bend over?

The US health care "system" is BROKEN.

The only ones who claim it's "good" are those lucky to have coverage at little cost from employers or government!

The health insurance business is a huge scam. To profit from someone's poor health/need for medical services is a ripoff.

If you had cancer and had to pay tens of thousands in out of pocket expenses, how would you feel knowing that every hospital, doctor, insurance co, laboratory, pharmaceutical was making a huge profit from your bad luck???

What if you *couldn't* get any type of coverage at all?
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What is broken is the intellect of all the people like you that voted this lout into office. When the intelligence of the general US population has degraded to the point where they would elect a narcissist first term senator with a dubious chicago community organizer background to the office of president its time for many of us to reevaluate our relationship with our country.

I too will opt out of healthcare "reform". And never again will I view my fellow citizens as being capable of rational decisions. Nearly all of you have been catagorized in my mind as dolts and the result is that I will no longer sit on the sidelines but will contribute money and time to support those candidates who share my own conservative political views. I rather think you are going to see alot of this.
 
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The 'haves' have too much and the 'have-nots' have too little. Some have-nots work their ASSES off for too little pay, and your solution is to take away their voting rights.
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Mind you I didn't say this is the best option but:

Quite bluntly universal suffrage without requiring the responsibility of fiscal obligation, is simply one of the most asinine concepts of the past two centuries.

Citizens who don't pay for the system should have no say in the system.

I would however support active duty military personnel as having the right to vote in federal elections.
 
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The 'haves' have too much and the 'have-nots' have too little. Some have-nots work their ASSES off for too little pay.
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Geez... it's not like some potentate gathered all the people around and decreed, "you get the good, well paying job... and you get the low paying job".

People who "have much" for the most part EARNED/INHERITED IT. People who "work their asses off for too little pay" made poor choices (less financially rewarding) early in their working career. Anybody who wants "more" can have more... by working differently... smarter...
 
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The 'haves' have too much and the 'have-nots' have too little. Some have-nots work their ASSES off for too little pay, and your solution is to take away their voting rights.
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So are you a "have too much" or a "haven't a pot to piss in" ? :D
 
Quote from Index piker:

Mind you I didn't say this is the best option but:

Quite bluntly universal suffrage without requiring the responsibility of fiscal obligation, is simply one of the most asinine concepts of the past two centuries.

Citizens who don't pay for the system should have no say in the system.

I would however support active duty military personnel as having the right to vote in federal elections.
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That is interesting.

If I could institute 3 reforms they would be:

1) 4-year term limits in Congress

2) 8-year term limits for Supreme Court Justices

3) Property ownership a prerequisite for voting priviledges

Personally I think that only landowners should be allowed to vote. That way many of the apartment dwelling black-dressing left wing liberals with zero stake in the game would be prevented from destroying what the rest of us fought for and work for. The rich liberals are a different problem.

I have no trouble paying taxes to cover people medically from birth to 18years. I have no trouble paying taxs to cover people from 65 years to death. I have no trouble paying taxs to cover disabled persons and *all* veterans.

I will be damned, however, before I will pay for medical coverage for able bodied citizens between 18 and 65. Not a God damned cent. I would sooner spend that money on ammunition if it came to it.
 
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I would however support active duty military personnel as having the right to vote in federal elections.
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How very generous of you.
 
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That is interesting.

If I could institute 3 reforms they would be:

1) 4-year term limits in Congress

2) 8-year term limits for Supreme Court Justices

3) Property ownership a prerequisite for voting priviledges

Personally I think that only landowners should be allowed to vote. That way many of the apartment dwelling black-dressing left wing liberals with zero stake in the game would be prevented from destroying what the rest of us fought for and work for. The rich liberals are a different problem.

I have no trouble paying taxes to cover people medically from birth to 18years. I have no trouble paying taxs to cover people from 65 years to death. I have no trouble paying taxs to cover disabled persons and *all* veterans.

I will be damned, however, before I will pay for medical coverage for able bodied citizens between 18 and 65. Not a God damned cent. I would sooner spend that money on ammunition if it came to it.
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Sucks for you that this is and will remain a fantasy
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

That is interesting.

If I could institute 3 reforms they would be:

1) 4-year term limits in Congress

2) 8-year term limits for Supreme Court Justices

3) Property ownership a prerequisite for voting priviledges

Personally I think that only landowners should be allowed to vote. That way many of the apartment dwelling black-dressing left wing liberals with zero stake in the game would be prevented from destroying what the rest of us fought for and work for. The rich liberals are a different problem.

I have no trouble paying taxes to cover people medically from birth to 18years. I have no trouble paying taxs to cover people from 65 years to death. I have no trouble paying taxs to cover disabled persons and *all* veterans.

I will be damned, however, before I will pay for medical coverage for able bodied citizens between 18 and 65. Not a God damned cent. I would sooner spend that money on ammunition if it came to it.
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I tend to agree but with #3 as a practical matter but one could easily have a high income tax burden without owning property.
1) would someone who owned a portion of a REIT count? etc. etc.

I've often thought ones voting power should be in proportion to net taxes paid at least on the federal level.
I mean think about it , it's exactly the opposite of vour traditional vote buying mechanism.

The big problem is how to have your voting record be private.
 
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