'Left vs. Right' or 'Freedom vs. Tyranny'?

[phenomena]

Lots of nukes, strongest standing army in the world, strongly allied with the nations which have most of the other strongest standing armies, just for starters of course.

Quote from Ricter:

Since we're broke, what would prevent a less conservative creditor from demanding we deliver the gold they're owed, and prevent them from running a deficit themselves, raising an army, and invading?

 

[TGregg]

Dream on. There's like 12 of us (on the whole planet) who'd like liberty for all. Most everybody has some things they want to stop others from doing that has no impact upon anyone other than the originator of the action.

Couple that with the ability to vote for people who'll spend money that belongs to other people on the voters and you've found a fine recipe for liberty-free living.

The really nice thing is I can see it coming and will do reasonably well. And I will be laughing my @$$ off at all the losers in the streets. I won't care enough about all the scum who are bringing this around to piss on `em if they were on fire, unless they were upwind of my domicile. The future is not bright and most of us deserve that darkness.

 

[Rearden Metal]

Quote from TGregg:

Dream on. There's like 12 of us (on the whole planet) who'd like liberty for all. Most everybody has some things they want to stop others from doing that has no impact upon anyone other than the originator of the action.

Couple that with the ability to vote for people who'll spend money that belongs to other people on the voters and you've found a fine recipe for liberty-free living.

The really nice thing is I can see it coming and will do reasonably well. And I will be laughing my @$$ off at all the losers in the streets. I won't care enough about all the scum who are bringing this around to piss on `em if they were on fire, unless they were upwind of my domicile. The future is not bright and most of us deserve that darkness.

+1,000,000!

 

[TGregg]

Quote from Scataphagos:

Should be the Tea Party arm-patch.

Watch and see what happens to the Tea Party when real cutting is expected to take place. Walk into Burger King and most folks are ready to start a diet on Monday - but nobody does. Same thing with cutting government. Most everybody thinks cutting spending is fine. Most everybody has their own ideas on what should be cut and what needs more funding.

There's no way to cut government.

EDIT: No way short of an overthrow.

 

[Rearden Metal]

Quote from TGregg:


There's no way to cut government.

...except with the sword.

 

[TGregg]

Quote from Rearden Metal:

...except with the sword.

Yeah, I amended my post before I read your reply.

 

[phenomena]

Here's hoping... If that were to happen the US would probably balkanize though... Not that I think that's a pejorative term like many do, I don't. Either way, I doubt "America" would have the same border which it previously did.

Quote from TGregg:



EDIT: No way short of an overthrow.

 

[phenomena]

Oh, and btw, that "liberty for all" originally meant "all Americans". Not the whole world, including whatever 3rd worlder who could manage to scurry over the border. The founding fathers and first several generations were very keen on not getting wrapped up in foreign entanglements. Never were we meant to be the global police, or international critic of statecraft.

Quote from TGregg:

Dream on. There's like 12 of us (on the whole planet) who'd like liberty for all. Most everybody has some things they want to stop others from doing that has no impact upon anyone other than the originator of the action.

Couple that with the ability to vote for people who'll spend money that belongs to other people on the voters and you've found a fine recipe for liberty-free living.

The really nice thing is I can see it coming and will do reasonably well. And I will be laughing my @$$ off at all the losers in the streets. I won't care enough about all the scum who are bringing this around to piss on `em if they were on fire, unless they were upwind of my domicile. The future is not bright and most of us deserve that darkness.