Left Turns... this thread will document the left turning on its own

[jem]

Dem Senator pretty much calls Harry Reid a fool.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...n-election-results-this-is-a-real-a-whooping/

"This is a rough and tumble sport and you know what? Every member of Congress – 535 – has earned the right to make a complete fool of themselves if they want to," he added. "We just have to make sure that the American public can see who wants to get something done, who wants to be an obstructionist and who wants to be a fool."

When asked whether Reid wants to do something, or is an obstructionist, or a fool, Manchin said: "I have no idea."

"We’re going to find out" about Reid, he added, noting that he's been in talks with other moderate Democrats, including Sens. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), Mark Warner (D-Va.), Tim Kaine (D-Va.) and Angus King (I-Maine), about how their caucus should comport itself during the lame-duck and going into next year.

 

[jem]

This is almost too much to handle... they are turning on Obamacare now that the cat is out of the bag and the numbers are about to dive.


http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...ted-by-Elitists-Who-Dont-Understand-Americans

On Wednesday’s “Morning Joe” on MSNBC, former Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT), also the former Democratic National Committee chairman, criticized the ObamaCare legislation in the wake of revelations that one of the architects, Jonathan Gruber, dismissed the American people as “stupid,” which he said allowed for that bill to be passed into law.
According to Dean, one of the primary problems was the law was crafted by so-called “elitists” that were out of touch with the American people.

“The problem is not that he said it, but the problem is that he thinks it,” Dean explained. “The core problem under the damn law is it was put together by a bunch of elitists two don’t fundamentally understand the American people. That’s what the problem is.”

 

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[jem]

I thought about this for a second and the only difference between what Howard Dean is saying and what we have been saying is the intent of the democrat elitists / cronies.

This shall come up in Hillary's election bid.
After what I just read, I suspect Gruber will be appearing in front of Senate committees in the future.
Heads may roll, jail cells may close as they take this thing apart.

This is almost too much to handle... they are turning on Obamacare now that the cat is out of the bag and the numbers are about to dive.


http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...ted-by-Elitists-Who-Dont-Understand-Americans

On Wednesday’s “Morning Joe” on MSNBC, former Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT), also the former Democratic National Committee chairman, criticized the ObamaCare legislation in the wake of revelations that one of the architects, Jonathan Gruber, dismissed the American people as “stupid,” which he said allowed for that bill to be passed into law.
According to Dean, one of the primary problems was the law was crafted by so-called “elitists” that were out of touch with the American people.

“The problem is not that he said it, but the problem is that he thinks it,” Dean explained. “The core problem under the damn law is it was put together by a bunch of elitists two don’t fundamentally understand the American people. That’s what the problem is.”

 

[jem]

at some point even leftists have to be worried they are going to lose a ton of the union voters, some of the black votes and some of the hispanic votes.

This could cleave off enough more votes than it could potentially gain.


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/11/17/N-Y-Times-and-WaPo-Question-Obama-on-Immigration

Unsure how far they can go in supporting Barack Obama in his expected grant of blanket amnesty to illegal immigrants residing in the United States, the two leading liberal newspapers in the nation are hedging their bets, noting that Obama has jumped from one side of the fence to the other in the immigration debate since he became president. The New York Times and The Washington Post both released articles Wednesday outlining Obama’s reversal of his former reluctance to act unilaterally.


The Post went so far as to write, “There is no small paradox — or, as his critics say, hypocrisy — in the fact that this potential showdown is being engineered by a president with a background as a constitutional law scholar and former senator, who frequently criticized the George W. Bush administration for what he said was an overreach of executive power.”



The Times got in its shot, too, asserting, “In fact, most of the questions that were posed to the president over the past several years were about the very thing that he is expected to announce within a matter of days: whether he could do something to reduce deportations and keep families together if Congress would not act.”



What was Obama’s position over the years and how did it change?

1. March, 2011: Obama said that federal laws made clear “that for me to simply, through executive order, ignore those congressional mandates would not conform with my appropriate role as president.”
2. September, 2011: “This notion that somehow I can just change the laws unilaterally is just not true. We are doing everything we can administratively. But the fact of the matter is, there are laws on the books that I have to enforce.”
3. February, 2013: Responding to a question asking if he could do more to keep families together while Congress had not passed immigration legislation, Obama said, “This is something that I have struggled with throughout my presidency. The problem is, is that I’m the president of the United States, I’m not the emperor of the United States. My job is to execute laws that are passed.”
4. September, 2013: Obama told Jose Diaz-Balart of Telemundo that he could not expand on his prior efforts that protected immigrants who had illegally emigrated as children, asserting, “If we start broadening that, then essentially, I’ll be ignoring the law in a way that I think would be very difficult to defend legally. So that’s not an option.”
5. November, 2013: Obama told protesters in San Francisco last November , protesters that only Congress could implement what the protesters wanted: “The easy way out is to try to yell and pretend like I can do something by violating our laws. And what I’m proposing is the harder path.”
6. Sunday, November 16, 2014: “Getting a comprehensive deal of the sort that is in the Senate legislation, for example, does extend beyond my legal authorities. There are certain things I cannot do. … Give me a bill that addresses those issues. I’ll be the first one to sign it and, metaphorically, I’ll crumple up whatever executive actions that we take and we’ll toss them in the wastebasket … There are certain limits to what falls within the realm of prosecutorial discretion in terms of how we apply existing immigration laws.”

Yet in 2012, Obama acted unilaterally by executive action to protect from deportation up to 1.7 million immigrants under the age of 30 who illegally emigrated to the U.S. as children with their parents. He allowed them to try to obtain temporary work permits. And in January 2013, Obama implied he would act unilaterally at some point, saying, “We’ve got some discretion. We can prioritize what we do.”

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