Left & Right Polls Agree: Obama Is Flubbing It

[Max E.]

Quote from denner:

There is a well scripted agenda put forward and it makes no difference whether a Republican or a Democrat holds office. Sure, the ideology and talking points will differ during campaigning, but when push comes to shove, the lobbyists get exactly what they want.

Yeah this is true basically the only people guaranteed to win every time regardless which side is in power are the lobbyists.

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from 377OHMS:



You see, Clinton shifted from left-center to the center. Obama is attempting to shift to the center from so far out on the left gaussian tail that it is not the least bit credible. He'll simply lose everyone.

Clinton-fought as hard as he could for single payer health care

Obama-Single payer was never on the table,gave up on the public option even though he had enough votes to get it with reconciliation and in the end accepted the health plan the republicans were fighting for as the alternative to Clintons single payer plan




Clinton- raised taxes

Obama-over 275 billion in tax cuts in his stimulus package and extended Bush tax cuts





Clinton -anti war and kept the country out of major wars.Cut the defense budget

Obama -extends and prolongs major wars ,increased defense budget significantly





Clinton-fought republicans

Obama-caves to republicans on nearly every issue






I dont understand how you can say Clinton is center left and Obama is far left.If Clinton had the majorities in congress that Obama had it would have been liberal utopia.Obama had super majorities in congress and most of his polices are republican policies