Leaving on a jet plane (or, how smart are you again?)

Quote from Turok:

Haroki:
>Then you're not as smart as you think you are.

I'd be careful in your evaluations of "smart" when you can't generate a valid high school level algebra equation.

LOL

>Mph > conveyor and wheels.
>
>lbs thrust > jets and ?

Are those also supposed to be some sort of "valid" equations?

more LOL

>Think of your excellent wheelchair on the
>treadmill example.

Wasn't mine, twas macal's, but excellent for sure.

>When you push the chair up the ramp, what would
>be required to prevent you from doing that? An
>opposing force.

>My Q to "them" is what is providing that opposing force?

It's an excellent question, and an absolutely invalid, violate the rules of algebra equation.

>"They" don't have an answer to that, cuz
>they're wrong in their assertion that the
>plane can't move.

They are wrong, but the reason they can't solve your equation is because IT ISN'T A VALID EQUATION and violates the simples rules of algebra.

LOL

You ask good question, you just don't write valid equations.

JB

PS: You can have the last word on this -- I'm not going to continue debating a simple high school algebra rule with you.

You demonstrate again your inability to think in the abstract.

I filled in some of the blanks for you, simpleton...
 
SuperZzzz:
>the treadmill is moving CLOCKWISE at a certain
>speed, the plan'es wheels are moving at a speed
>EQUAL to treadmill but counterclockwise.

Sorry dude. In your above scenario, the planes wheels AREN'T MOVING ANYWHERE!. They spinning and GOING NOWHERE.

The surface of the treadmill is MOVING east at (say) 5mph. To "match the speed" in the opposite direction, the wheels of the plane MUST BE MOVING 5mph TO THE WEST.

You're example doesn't meet the requirement of the stated problem.

Geez.

JB
 
Quote from Turok:

SuperZzzz:
>the treadmill is moving CLOCKWISE at a certain
>speed, the plan'es wheels are moving at a speed
>EQUAL to treadmill but counterclockwise.

Sorry dude. In your above scenario, the planes wheels AREN'T MOVING ANYWHERE!. They spinning and GOING NOWHERE.

The surface of the treadmill is MOVING east at (say) 5mph. To "match the speed" in the opposite direction, the wheels of the plane MUST BE MOVING 5mph TO THE WEST.

You're example doesn't meet the requirement of the stated problem.

Geez.

JB


"the wheels of the plane MUST BE MOVING 5mph TO THE WEST"

you've ILL-STATED this problem, very unclear, no wonder everyone is having problems with it.

obvious that NOW you mean the "wheels" and the "plane proper" to be one and the same system of points! why even bring the wheels into it? simply say the "plane" itself GEEEEEZ

you get an "F" for physics 101. notes to student: state your problem with RIGOR, less ambiguity !!
 
Well,that's troubling.

ZZzz and I agree that Turok isn't as smart as he thinks he is....

I need a Bloody Mary after that...
 
SuperZzzz:
>you've ILL-STATED this problem, very unclear, no
>wonder everyone is having problems with it.

What I have stated (directly to you and on the record), is that it's not my problem -- I'm not the author, so if you have issues with it's wording, take it up with them.

If you want MY version of the problem, go to this thread.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=107520

>obvious that NOW you mean the "wheels" and the
>"plane proper" to be one and the same system of
>points!

In defense of the author, the wheels and the plane are fastened together pretty tightly -- that is to say that generally when a pilot goes to land he pretty much assumes that his wheels traveled the same distance and at the same speed as the rest of the plane. If he assumed that something other than that was possible (as you apparently do) he'd be pretty puckered up on every landing.

>why even bring the wheels into it? simply
>say the "plane" itself GEEEEEZ

Perhaps it was to weed out those folks who think that a planes wheels don't move right along with the plane -- who knows.

JB
 
SuperZzzz:
>you get an "F" for physics 101. notes to
>student: state your problem with RIGOR,
>less ambiguity !!

zTroll, did you know that the steering wheel of your car travels along the same path and at the same speed as the rest of your car?

Just checking.

ROFLAO!!!

JB
 
Quote from Turok:

SuperZzzz:
>you get an "F" for physics 101. notes to
>student: state your problem with RIGOR,
>less ambiguity !!

zTroll, did you know that the steering wheel of your car travels along the same path and at the same speed as the rest of your car?

Just checking.

ROFLAO!!!

JB


what an idiot ! :p
 
Ztroll,

Here's a good one ...

Pilot over intercom:

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we know you have many choices when it comes to flying and we appreciate you choosing us.

We've arrived over San Diego, but will be circling for a bit while our wheels catch up to us. Once we manage to get our wheels back solid to our aircraft, we'll be landing.

Thank you for flying with us on here at We Defy Every Law of Physics Airline and have a good day.

JB
 
Quote from Turok:

Hey Ztroll,

http://trisports.com/kinroadmactr.html

When guys warm up on one of these before a ride, did you know that their speed is actually ZER0? Turns out their wheels aren't going anywhere either.

Freaky huh!!

JB

their wheel has a rotational velocity to it. the very center of the AXIS of the wheel is going nowhere but any point on the wheel OTHER than that is most certainly moving.

i reiterate,
what an idiot ! :p
 
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