Leaked ,,Panic Paper"

[Pekelo]

So the food pyramid is a hoax and cholesterol is good for us? I just looked at the original 1992

I said 70s. 1992 came 20 years later. And yes, elderly people live longer with HIGHER cholesterol. Not to mention the whole cholesterol number itself doesn't make any sense (adding a good and a bad number together but calling the result bad if it is high). The obvious solution is looking at ratios, not sums.

Anyhow you got my point, propaganda works, be it political, moral or health care.

 

[DiceAreCast]

Because science does such a lousy job to advertise itself. Ask yourself: how much real, 100% fact based climate science are you aware of? I have to admit that I sometimes can't even find answers to claims when I make all effort to look for them.

its real. people have a very hard time making casual inferences from invisible things. science escapes them. most people don't know about the spectrum of visible light

 

[stochastix]

Because science does such a lousy job to advertise itself. Ask yourself: how much real, 100% fact based climate science are you aware of? I have to admit that I sometimes can't even find answers to claims when I make all effort to look for them.

quite a few. a friend of mine got his PhD from MIT and even med Edward Lorenz once in the halls there (chaos theory guy who the Lorenz attractor) is named after. he would pontificate at length , the solar albedo effect , etc . a lot of the stuff is buried in journal paywalls and its not easy to understand since its not intuitive

 

[userque]

remember when eggs were bad and now there good and cheese was bad and now it's ok we all need less global government and more freedom and less regulations. also we all all need more guns and ammo, few tanks and fighter jets would good also.

Earth used to be flat; now it's spherical.
Everything used to move according to Newton's Laws; now we have quantum mechanics etc.

Science progresses; and can't really demand that it's perfect. But,

It's the best we have, with what we know, currently.

If any one individual knows better, prove it; and science will progress thanks to that individual.

To say one knows better, without proving it, is folly.

 

[DiceAreCast]

Not just is it complex but scholars and scientists should admit that the climate datasets are often times way too small to make any meaningful inference from data observations.

quite a few. a friend of mine got his PhD from MIT and even med Edward Lorenz once in the halls there (chaos theory guy who the Lorenz attractor) is named after. he would pontificate at length , the solar albedo effect , etc . a lot of the stuff is buried in journal paywalls and its not easy to understand since its not intuitive

 

[misterkel]

So the food pyramid is a hoax and cholesterol is good for us?

Cholesterol is not bad for people, according to some medical studies. The reason you see high cholesterol in heart patients is cholesterol is correlated to certain heart problems. It may be that the body is increasing cholesterol because it uses it to protect the heart.
None of this is certain, but the whole cholesterol is terrible is poorly established medicine.

 

[Williamharvard]

That is something I have never seen or heard of before. Quite astonishing.

 

[DiceAreCast]

This is nothing, spend a bit more time here and you find way more "astonishing" content. Lots of this astonishing content is just that, content, ink on paper. Seldomly is factual backup provided. Caution warranted.

That is something I have never seen or heard of before. Quite astonishing.

 

[cortney302]

Seems to be the best example of how the public opinion is shaped. Good one though.