It is the surreptitious attempt to influence an outcome that is at issue. Attempted murder may not be the same as murder, but it is not a walk.
What was that about Obama? Link, please.
Leading Progressives Say that Even Americans Who Hate Trump Should Defend Him Against Attempted Coup
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What was that about Obama? Link, please.
Yeah, but come on. The meddling that released records of Podesta absolutely affected the election. How could it not have? I just can't lay that at the doorstep of Russia, because, as I've said many times, there's no proof. Wikileaks has said it was someone inside the democratic party.
this is what kills me about the left and the establishment. This is why you know they have no interest protecting the U.S. just their power structure.
To me... that was the biggest offense out of all them. Its treason and as dangerous as can be.
But, should we not be investigating to see if this was coordinated with Obama Obama to get the uranium to Iran for bombs.
There were articles showing our Uranium left the country and a few months later Iran was getting uranium and Obama gave them billions and the right to build.
Where was the intel community on that one?
To me... that was the biggest offense out of all them. Its treason and as dangerous as can be.
But, should we not be investigating to see if this was coordinated with Obama Obama to get the uranium to Iran for bombs.
There were articles showing our Uranium left the country and a few months later Iran was getting uranium and Obama gave them billions and the right to build.
Where was the intel community on that one?
Another very interesting editorial with no proof whatsoever. Included in this rant are laughable comments such as:
The connections between WikiLeaks and the Russians are obvious, except to the people who prefer not to see them. This is not a liberal or conservative matter; opportunists of every stripe look away from the mysteries of how Assange and WikiLeaks manage to survive, physically and financially, rather than to admit that a crusade for “transparency” and “freedom” is little more than a Russian operation directed at the West’s most gullible citizens.
Ok, if they're so obvious, where are they? Why can't the author show any of these connections? We're to believe Assange has chosen life in exile in the Embassy of Ecuador in the UK is in league with Putin simply because he is still alive, and his website is somehow running? It's Russia who is running the show based on that evidence? Never mind the money Wikileaks gets from individual donors and the public.
For more sensible people, however, the evidence is damning. First and foremost, WikiLeaks—citizens of the world that they are—never seem able to leak anything damaging to the interests of the Russians. They likewise avoid antagonizing the Chinese or any other autocratic regime that might take umbrage or engage in retaliation. Almost every leak of any consequence is aimed squarely at the United States and its allies, and never as assistance to noble activists anywhere else.
Ah yes, very damning evidence. But since they likewise avoid antagonizing the Chinese or other autocratic regime, couldn't they be agents of China or the unmentioned "other regimes"? As far as I can recall, I've never said anything disparaging about New Zealand. I think the climate is nice and the scenery magnificent. Uh oh, I'm in league with them.
The author is certainly entitled to his opinion. But that's all it is. There's zero proof.
And fugitive from justice Assange is entitled to his lies. In the Ecuadorian embassy in London. For now.
I don't think it influenced one vote. People who loved Hillary loved her to the bitter end, regardless of whatever news came out. People who hated her, hated her before, during and after all the leaks. No minds were changed.
There were other people out there who were on the fence of two bad choices. To suggest there wasn't a vote influenced is a bit silly, Cap'n.
You believe Putin to be this mass murderer when you read about suspicious deaths, but not Hillary Clinton? http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php
If you believe one without evidence, you need to believe the other.