Leading Progressives Say that Even Americans Who Hate Trump Should Defend Him Against Attempted Coup

I wasn't being snarky. You keep dwelling on the Iraq WMD argument. But:

Congress eventually concluded that the Bush administration had "overstated" its dire warnings about the Iraqi threat, and that the administration's claims about Iraq's WMD program were "not supported by the underlying intelligence reporting."

So if you want to blame someone, then blame the Bush administration, not the underlying intelligence. Please stop with the WMD all-purpose anti-intelligence argument already. Let's just drop the WMD reference altogether as it relates to anything going on right now. Because it doesn't.

Yeah, it was "widely believed." But it was perpetrated by one source. Whereas the widely-held belief of Putin's complicity in the apartment building bombing does not have a singular point of origin. That gives it more credibility, all else being equal. And whereas the Bush administration pushed the WMD agenda for its own benefit, as it saw it, the people who accused Putin did so at considerable personal risk. Some lost their life in the process. See the difference?

And whereas you are twisting and turning, giving Putin all manner of the benefit of the doubt, you were ready to stick a fork into Clinton for mere allusions of impropriety without underlying factual evidence. You are adhering to a very different standard when it comes to the two.

So where's the snark?

Of course it's OK when Hillary is in bed with the Russians.

It's perfectly acceptable to liberals to sell uranium to Russians so they can process it to weapons grade and sell it to Iran, North Korea, etc.

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I wasn't being snarky. You keep dwelling on the Iraq WMD argument. But:

Congress eventually concluded that the Bush administration had "overstated" its dire warnings about the Iraqi threat, and that the administration's claims about Iraq's WMD program were "not supported by the underlying intelligence reporting."

So if you want to blame someone, then blame the Bush administration, not the underlying intelligence. Please stop with the WMD all-purpose anti-intelligence argument already. Let's just drop the WMD reference altogether as it relates to anything going on right now. Because it doesn't.

Yeah, it was "widely believed." But it was perpetrated by one source. Whereas the widely-held belief of Putin's complicity in the apartment building bombing does not have a singular point of origin. That gives it more credibility, all else being equal. And whereas the Bush administration pushed the WMD agenda for its own benefit, as it saw it, the people who accused Putin did so at considerable personal risk. Some lost their life in the process. See the difference?

And whereas you are twisting and turning, giving Putin all manner of the benefit of the doubt, you were ready to stick a fork into Clinton for mere allusions of impropriety without underlying factual evidence. You are adhering to a very different standard when it comes to the two.

So where's the snark?

Who really cares who it was perpetrated by? You stated it was widely believed that Putin orchestrated a bombing of innocent civilians in his own country. I said there is no proof, and there isn't. Lots of things are widely believed in this world, until they're not. And even if they are widely believed until the end of time, that's awesome for those who believe. Those of us requiring proof are a bit more skeptical.

You have made it abundantly clear that you believe what your side is pushing on a number of issues. I have no problem with your beliefs; you are welcome to them. But when you state something is true, I have to ask you how you know that. If you can't prove it, then it's hard to call it true.

You seem to want to convince me of something when I require proof to accept it. I thought I have made it equally abundantly clear that without proof, I can't accept it as true - as there are many reasons that I can think of that would drive certain folks to make it up.

End of story.

Please show me proof where I am willing to stick a fork in Clinton without factual evidence.
 
So let me ask if Russia is a net exporter of Uranium supplying 8% of the world's needs then why do they need to purchase 20% of the U.S. uranium for processing. Considering Russia does not have an increasing need for Uranium for nuclear power plants (not expanding) or for nuclear weapons (not increasing due to treaties) then why does Russia need to purchase 20% of the U.S. uranium for processing. Where is all of this processed uranium being sent to from Russia? There is minimal disclosure or tracking.

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Russia controls 10% of the world's total uranium reserves and supplies about 8% of the world's needs. Both numbers are significantly higher if Russia's interests in uranium mining and export in Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgyzstan are also considered.

TVEL is a private company, but wholly owned and managed by the Federal Atomic Energy Agency (FAAE). TVEL controls 100% of uranium mining in Russia, which takes place mostly in the Chita Region by a TVEL subsidiary, the Priargunskiy Mining and Chemical Combine (PMCC).

Texsnabexport (Tenex) is also registered as a private company and is owned and managed by the FAAE. It controls 100% of uranium exports from Russia as well as supplies various materials to factories owned by the FAAE and commercially imports speciality goods such as medical, biotech, and scientific equipment and protective clothing.

http://www.sras.org/library_resource_export_russia#Uranium
 
Please show me proof where I am willing to stick a fork in Clinton without factual evidence.
Perhaps I'm mistaken. I thought you were in the crowd that said she was influence peddling, you know, pay-for-play. Perhaps I painted with too broad a brush. If so, my apologies to you in this instance.
 
Perhaps I'm mistaken. I thought you were in the crowd that said she was influence peddling, you know, pay-for-play. Perhaps I painted with too broad a brush. If so, my apologies to you in this instance.

I may have said the Clinton foundation was about pay for play, I cannot recall. Regardless, I certainly think that is the case.
 
I don't see anything wrong in trying to establish better relations with the Russians. Bitter enemies can develop working relationships and we have considerable evidence of that. Perhaps the current day left has forgotten our wars with Japan, Germany and Vietnam to lesser extent.
 
I don't see anything wrong in trying to establish better relations with the Russians. Bitter enemies can develop working relationships and we have considerable evidence of that. Perhaps the current day left has forgotten our wars with Japan, Germany and Vietnam to lesser extent.
People in the administration you voted for believe Russia meddled in the election. So that is to go unanswered? A mulligan, as it were? So much for a show of strength in the face of foreign meddling, eh? Credibility much?
 
People in the administration you voted for believe Russia meddled in the election. So that is to go unanswered? A mulligan, as it were? So much for a show of strength in the face of foreign meddling, eh? Credibility much?
The meddling, which is nothing new, had no influence on the outcome of the election. Someone else of prominence took that position as well. Who was that? Let me think. Oh yeah, it was President Obama.
 
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