Leaders Around The World Incensed Over Trump’s Jerusalem Decision

Historically it matters but it’s not worth it with you guys. Ancestry doesn’t matter in this discussion because it’s about government to government relations
Another dodge. When bringing up ancestry, you only referenced European Jews, and exclude middle eastern Jews. Why is that?
 
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12/06/2017 05:22 am ET

Leaders Around The World Incensed Over Trump’s Jerusalem Decision


Everyone from the Pope to the Kremlin expressed concern that recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel would threaten regional stability.

President Donald Trump sparked an uproar among leaders across the world after he signaled that he would be recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and moving the U.S. embassy there, upending decades of American foreign policy and potentially thwarting any hope for Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.

Trump called Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas and the leaders of several U.S. allies on Tuesday to break the news. He is expected to formally announce the decision in a speech on Wednesday.

Abbas warned Trump “of the dangerous consequences such a decision would have to the peace process and to the peace, security and stability of the region and of the world,” Abbas’ spokesman Nabil Abu Rudeina said in a statement after Trump’s call. The Palestinian leader also called for three days of protest beginning Wednesday.

The embassy move would represent the “kiss of death” to the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, said Manuel Hassassian, the Palestinian representative to Britain ― an issue Trump has delegated to Jared Kushner, his son-in-law and adviser. Jordan’s King Abdullah II and Saudi Arabia’s King Salman made similar warnings.

“Mr. Trump, Jerusalem is the red line of Muslims,” Turkey’s President Tayyip Erdogan said Monday. He additionally threatened to cut Turkey’s diplomatic ties with Israel.

The Arab League also opposed the move, with Secretary General Ahmed Aboul Gheit saying it was a “dangerous measure that would have repercussions.”

Egypt’s PresidentAbdel Fattah el-Sisi also cautioned Trump against “taking measures that would undermine the chances of peace in the Middle East.”

Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei coined the U.S. move a “sign of its incompetence and failure.” Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani on Wednesday slammed the decision as a result of “global arrogance and Zionism looking for a new adventure.”

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Beyond the Middle East, the European Union’s top diplomat, Federica Mogherini, also said it would damage peace talks.

“The European Union supports the resumption of a meaningful peace process towards a two-state solution,” she said. “We believe that any action that would undermine these efforts must absolutely be avoided.”

Sigmar Gabriel, Germany’s Foreign Minister, cautioned that the move would fuel more conflict and “would be a very dangerous development.” Britain views the news “with concern,” U.K. Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson said, and Prime Minister Theresa May added that she plans to speak directly with Trump on the matter. And French President Emmanuel Macron said he reminded Trump over the phone that the status of Jerusalem should be resolved through peace talks. The Kremlin also expressed concern about the decision.

Pope Francis made a passionate plea against Trump’s decision in an address on Wednesday.

“I make a heartfelt appeal so that all commit themselves to respecting the status quo of the city, in conformity with the pertinent resolutions of the United Nations,” he said. “I cannot keep quiet about my deep worry about the situation that has been created in the last few days.”

He said he hoped “wisdom and prudence prevail, in order to avoid adding new elements of tension to a global panorama that is already convulsed and marked by so many and cruel conflicts.”

Earlier on Wednesday, the Pope told a group of Palestinians that “recognizing the rights of all people” in the Holy Land is a primary condition for peace talks.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said on Wednesday that China was concerned Trump’s decision “could sharpen regional conflict”.

“All parties should do more for the peace and tranquillity of the region, behave cautiously, and avoid impacting the foundation for resolving the long-standing Palestine issue and initiating new hostility in the region,” Geng said.

The United Nations has also expressed opposition to the move.

U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres has “consistently warned against any unilateral action that would have the potential to undermine the two-state solution”, his spokesman, Stephane Dujarric, said.
 
Another dodge. When bringing up ancestry, you only referenced European Jews, and exclude middle eastern Jews. Why is that?

Because descendants from Europe make up the largest ancestry of Jews in Israel, followed by Jews from North Africa and Asia.
 
Jerusalem is the capital of Israel but the argument that Jewish people were there centuries (really millennia) prior to Palestinians doesn’t work. There were other Semitic people that predated the Israelis and the Palestinians have a stronger genetic connection to the Semitic people from the Bible than modern Jews. They also have a longer and stronger familial connection to the land. That’s just a fact.

The correct argument is Israel is an established country and its official capital is Jerusalem. There’s no other relevant argument and debating whether which faith can occupy a land isn’t productive either. Whether it is in America’s interest to recognize Jerusalem is another question. I don’t see any upside for us but I also don’t see it as wrong to recognize Jerusalem either.

It’s ballsy of Trump to make the move and he will be responsible if there is any fallout.

The original occupation by the Jewish people in this region some 4000 years ago resulted in the annihilation of almost all its inhabitants. You're claim of a predated people died there.

Since that time the nation of Israel has been conquered, dispersed and returned on more than one occasion.

The problem arises in that both Jew and Muslim trace their genealogy to the same ancestor Abraham/Ibrahim, both religions see the area as a promised inheritance from God.

This is nothing more than a continuation of the Crusades and a family squabble between cousins.

If Egypt, Jordan, Syria et al. hadn't tried to invade Israel and lose their territory, we wouldn't have the Palestinian problem we have today.
 
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The original occupation by the Jewish people in this region some 4000 years ago resulted in the annihilation of almost all its inhabitants. You're claim of a predated people died there.

Since that time the nation of Israel has been conquered, dispersed and returned on more than one occasion.

The problem arises in that both Jew and Muslim trace their genealogy to the same ancestor Abraham/Ibrahim, both religions see the area as a promised inheritance from God.

This is nothing more than a continuation of the Crusades and a family squabble between cousins.

If Egypt, Jordan, Syria et al. hadn't tried to invade Israel and lose there territory, we wouldn't have the Palestinian problem we have today.
People of color, they do know how to hold a grudge.
 
The original occupation by the Jewish people in this region some 4000 years ago resulted in the annihilation of almost all its inhabitants. You're claim of a predated people died there.

Since that time the nation of Israel has been conquered, dispersed and returned on more than one occasion.

The problem arises in that both Jew and Muslim trace their genealogy to the same ancestor Abraham/Ibrahim, both religions see the area as a promised inheritance from God.

This is nothing more than a continuation of the Crusades and a family squabble between cousins.

If Egypt, Jordan, Syria et al. hadn't tried to invade Israel and lose their territory, we wouldn't have the Palestinian problem we have today.

Well now you are saying Israel annihilated an entire people when they came into Canaan. That’s not true either. There’s plenty of evidence that shows the Canaanites converted and intermarried. Even in the Bible it says they took all the unmarried women and children. Also, another misconception is that all the Jews left Israel, when in fact most of them stayed and converted to Islam or Christianity. This is why Palestinians are genetically more Jewish than most of the people in Israel.
 
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