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gwb-trading said:
So you provide a bunch of citations -- where all the links lead to YouTube re-direction messages rather than the papers cited in the text of the links. Basically worthless -- what social media misinformation site did you copy & paste this stuff from ( I expect it is from some anti-vaxxer crap video on YouTube). Why don't you post the YouTube video where you got this from so we can mock it as well.
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Wow are you an asshole who will do anything to hide the truth.
I did post the video... you troll.

The links came from the section below the youtube video I posted.
The doctor, quite respectably, gives the links which supported his graphing and statements.
That is what honest people with integrity do.

The links takes you to the journals....

I will post the direct links below. in order.

If you read these studies you will stop posting your lies and understand that
the vaccines are not magical. They work for a period of time and then fade.

They rely on people's immune systems so it is only natual, that natural immunity is superior in the long run in many if not all circumstances.






Duration of immune protection of SARS-CoV-2 natural infection against reinfection in Qatar | medRxiv

Duration of mRNA vaccine protection against SARS-CoV-2 Omicron BA.1 and BA.2 subvariants in Qatar | Nature Communications

One coronavirus infection wards off another — but only if it’s a similar variant (nature.com)



SARS-CoV-2 vaccine effectiveness against infection, symptomatic and severe COVID-19: a systematic review and meta-analysis | BMC Infectious Diseases | Full Text (biomedcentral.com)


Duration of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Effectiveness against Severe Disease (medrxiv.org)

Waning of BNT162b2 Vaccine Protection against SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Qatar | NEJM


Effectiveness of mRNA-1273 and BNT162b2 Vaccines in Qatar | NEJM

Effects of Previous Infection and Vaccination on Symptomatic Omicron Infections (nejm.org)


Effect of mRNA Vaccine Boosters against SARS-CoV-2 Omicron Infection in Qatar | NEJM

Outcomes of SARS-CoV-2 Reinfection | Research Square

Long COVID risk falls only slightly after vaccination, huge study shows (nature.com)
 
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ignorwell said:
Wow are you an asshole who will do anything to hide the truth.
I did post the video... you troll.

The links came from the section below the youtube video I posted.
The doctor, quite respectably, gives the links which supported his graphing and statements.
That is what honest people with integrity do.

The links takes you to the journals....

I will post the direct links below. in order.

If you read these studies you will stop posting your lies and understand that
the vaccines are not magical. They work for a period of time and then fade.

They rely on people's immune systems so it is only natual, that natural immunity is superior in the long run in many if not all circumstances.






Duration of immune protection of SARS-CoV-2 natural infection against reinfection in Qatar | medRxiv

Duration of mRNA vaccine protection against SARS-CoV-2 Omicron BA.1 and BA.2 subvariants in Qatar | Nature Communications

One coronavirus infection wards off another — but only if it’s a similar variant (nature.com)



SARS-CoV-2 vaccine effectiveness against infection, symptomatic and severe COVID-19: a systematic review and meta-analysis | BMC Infectious Diseases | Full Text (biomedcentral.com)


Duration of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Effectiveness against Severe Disease (medrxiv.org)

Waning of BNT162b2 Vaccine Protection against SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Qatar | NEJM


Effectiveness of mRNA-1273 and BNT162b2 Vaccines in Qatar | NEJM

Effects of Previous Infection and Vaccination on Symptomatic Omicron Infections (nejm.org)


Effect of mRNA Vaccine Boosters against SARS-CoV-2 Omicron Infection in Qatar | NEJM

Outcomes of SARS-CoV-2 Reinfection | Research Square

Long COVID risk falls only slightly after vaccination, huge study shows (nature.com)
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You only posted the video after you edited one of your previous posts. Dr. Been (Dr. Mobeen Syed) is an anti-vax doctor who is part of the ‘Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance’ (FLCCC) which regularly promotes Covid information. Here is his profile from the FLCCC page - https://covid19criticalcare.com/drbeen/

In this case -- your source is a promoter of Covid misinformation -- it is not worth having a discussion about the junk he is pushing. Dr. Mobeen Syed has been called out for misinformation in numerous failed fact checks -- not limited to one and two - when he isn't hyping Ivermectin to treat Covid. I have outlined previously that Dr. Mobeen Syed is a scam artist.

Get back to us when you get your information from reliable mainstream sources rather than anti-vax Covid-denying conspiracy clowns who work for organizations focused on pushing disinformation.
 
ignorwell said:
Wow are you an asshole who will do anything to hide the truth.
I did post the video... you troll.

The links came from the section below the youtube video I posted.
The doctor, quite respectably, gives the links which supported his graphing and statements.
That is what honest people with integrity do.

The links takes you to the journals....

I will post the direct links below. in order.

If you read these studies you will stop posting your lies and understand that
the vaccines are not magical. They work for a period of time and then fade.

They rely on people's immune systems so it is only natual, that natural immunity is superior in the long run in many if not all circumstances.






Duration of immune protection of SARS-CoV-2 natural infection against reinfection in Qatar | medRxiv

Duration of mRNA vaccine protection against SARS-CoV-2 Omicron BA.1 and BA.2 subvariants in Qatar | Nature Communications

One coronavirus infection wards off another — but only if it’s a similar variant (nature.com)



SARS-CoV-2 vaccine effectiveness against infection, symptomatic and severe COVID-19: a systematic review and meta-analysis | BMC Infectious Diseases | Full Text (biomedcentral.com)


Duration of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Effectiveness against Severe Disease (medrxiv.org)

Waning of BNT162b2 Vaccine Protection against SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Qatar | NEJM


Effectiveness of mRNA-1273 and BNT162b2 Vaccines in Qatar | NEJM

Effects of Previous Infection and Vaccination on Symptomatic Omicron Infections (nejm.org)


Effect of mRNA Vaccine Boosters against SARS-CoV-2 Omicron Infection in Qatar | NEJM

Outcomes of SARS-CoV-2 Reinfection | Research Square

Long COVID risk falls only slightly after vaccination, huge study shows (nature.com)
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gwb has been asked this question 8 times and never produced the simple product that he does everything else but...
He's on the hamster wheel and likes it there.
Big hamster in charge, lol.

Here ya go gwb, you get this together yet?

gwb,What's your problem coming up with Actual Goods? lol

This is a Yes or No question.
Is it your claim that jabs are safe and effective against D-Variant
and that you have posted peer reviewed scientific data to support your claim, gwb-trader?
Yes or No?

LOL Where's Your Spine Man.

 
You posted 19 minutes after my post.


Dr. Been is vaccinated and says he has hybrid immunity in the video.

I believe you even commented or posted one of the studies from the New England Journal of medicine your troll. You simply excerpted the part you did not like.

The source are studies in the New England Journal of Medicine, Medrxiv and Nature
plus other journals. You are sick troll to deny the validity for those journals.


for instance...
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.07.06.22277306v1

RESULTS Effectiveness of pre-Omicron primary infection against pre-Omicron reinfection was 85.5% (95% CI: 84.8-86.2%). Effectiveness peaked at 90.5% (95% CI: 88.4-92.3%) in the 7th month after the primary infection, but waned to ∼70% by the 16th month. Extrapolating this waning trend using a Gompertz curve suggested an effectiveness of 50% in the 22nd month and <10% by the 32nd month. Effectiveness of pre-Omicron primary infection against Omicron reinfection was 38.1% (95% CI: 36.3-39.8%) and declined with time since primary infection. A Gompertz curve suggested an effectiveness of <10% by the 15th month. Effectiveness of primary infection against severe, critical, or fatal COVID-19 reinfection was 97.3% (95% CI: 94.9- 98.6%), irrespective of the variant of primary infection or reinfection, and with no evidence for waning. Similar results were found in sub-group analyses for those ≥50 years of age.

CONCLUSIONS Protection of natural infection against reinfection wanes and may diminish within a few years. Viral immune evasion accelerates this waning. Protection against severe reinfection remains very strong, with no evidence for waning, irrespective of variant, for over 14 months after primary infection.







gwb-trading said:
You only posted the video after you edited one of your previous posts. Dr. Been (Dr. Mobeen Syed) is an anti-vax doctor who is part of the ‘Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance’ (FLCCC) which regularly promotes Covid information. Here is his profile from the FLCCC page - https://covid19criticalcare.com/drbeen/

In this case -- your source is a promoter of Covid misinformation -- it is not worth having a discussion about the junk he is pushing. Dr. Mobeen Syed has been called out for misinformation in numerous failed fact checks -- not limited to one and two - when he isn't hyping Ivermectin to treat Covid. I have outlined previously that Dr. Mobeen Syed is a scam artist.

Get back to us when you get your information from reliable mainstream sources rather than anti-vax Covid-denying conspiracy clowns who work for organizations focused on pushing disinformation.
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exlib said:
You posted 19 minutes after my post.


Dr. Been is vaccinated and says he has hybrid immunity in the video.

I believe you even commented or posted one of the studies from the New England Journal of medicine your troll. You simply excerpted the part you did not like.

The source are studies in the New England Journal of Medicine, Medrxiv and Nature
plus other journals. You are sick troll to deny the validity for those journals.


for instance...
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.07.06.22277306v1

RESULTS Effectiveness of pre-Omicron primary infection against pre-Omicron reinfection was 85.5% (95% CI: 84.8-86.2%). Effectiveness peaked at 90.5% (95% CI: 88.4-92.3%) in the 7th month after the primary infection, but waned to ∼70% by the 16th month. Extrapolating this waning trend using a Gompertz curve suggested an effectiveness of 50% in the 22nd month and <10% by the 32nd month. Effectiveness of pre-Omicron primary infection against Omicron reinfection was 38.1% (95% CI: 36.3-39.8%) and declined with time since primary infection. A Gompertz curve suggested an effectiveness of <10% by the 15th month. Effectiveness of primary infection against severe, critical, or fatal COVID-19 reinfection was 97.3% (95% CI: 94.9- 98.6%), irrespective of the variant of primary infection or reinfection, and with no evidence for waning. Similar results were found in sub-group analyses for those ≥50 years of age.

CONCLUSIONS Protection of natural infection against reinfection wanes and may diminish within a few years. Viral immune evasion accelerates this waning. Protection against severe reinfection remains very strong, with no evidence for waning, irrespective of variant, for over 14 months after primary infection.
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That's pre-print, not reviewed of course. You know that you have the exact same failure to grasp the whole natural immunity is great except that route would have killed a fuckton of people as a poster named Jem?
 
I am not against the vaccine.
I believe the vaccine should be a choice.

I am simply posting facts and studies.
And with that... I am done posting here.


Bugenhagen said:
That's pre-print, not reviewed of course. You know that you have the exact same failure to grasp the whole natural immunity is great except that route would have killed a fuckton of people as a poster named Jem?
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exlib said:
You posted 19 minutes after my post.


Dr. Been is vaccinated and says he has hybrid immunity in the video.

I believe you even commented or posted one of the studies from the New England Journal of medicine your troll. You simply excerpted the part you did not like.

The source are studies in the New England Journal of Medicine, Medrxiv and Nature
plus other journals. You are sick troll to deny the validity for those journals.


for instance...
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.07.06.22277306v1

RESULTS Effectiveness of pre-Omicron primary infection against pre-Omicron reinfection was 85.5% (95% CI: 84.8-86.2%). Effectiveness peaked at 90.5% (95% CI: 88.4-92.3%) in the 7th month after the primary infection, but waned to ∼70% by the 16th month. Extrapolating this waning trend using a Gompertz curve suggested an effectiveness of 50% in the 22nd month and <10% by the 32nd month. Effectiveness of pre-Omicron primary infection against Omicron reinfection was 38.1% (95% CI: 36.3-39.8%) and declined with time since primary infection. A Gompertz curve suggested an effectiveness of <10% by the 15th month. Effectiveness of primary infection against severe, critical, or fatal COVID-19 reinfection was 97.3% (95% CI: 94.9- 98.6%), irrespective of the variant of primary infection or reinfection, and with no evidence for waning. Similar results were found in sub-group analyses for those ≥50 years of age.

CONCLUSIONS Protection of natural infection against reinfection wanes and may diminish within a few years. Viral immune evasion accelerates this waning. Protection against severe reinfection remains very strong, with no evidence for waning, irrespective of variant, for over 14 months after primary infection.
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So you are posting under the user name "exlib" now --- while your previous posts are under "ignorwell" in this thread. Just how many user ids do you have? Do you have so many that you can't figure out who you are logging in as currently, jem?
 
exlib was a work computer. it was a mistake.

gwb-trading said:
So you are posting under the user name "exlib" now --- while your previous posts are under "ignorwell" in this thread. Just how many user ids do you have? Do you have so many that you can't figure out who you are logging in as currently, jem?
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