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I happen to know a bit about this one since my wife sometimes works with Covid positives at the hospital.
I wanted to learn as much as I could before my wife took received the vaccine... which she has been offered. (multiple times)
1. Most of the people who work with patients who have Covid... know that they were not perfectly protected (especially in the beginning) and have most likely been exposed multiple times.
2. Some health care workers who recently received the vaccine have had reactions and called in sick. For instance my wife filled in last night for someone who had the vaccine and was experiencing symptoms.
(but on the flip side.. one of smarter doctors I have met said... why not have symptoms you get paid for 2 weeks.)
3. So if you may get symptoms.. and you are healthy why bother with the vaccine.
(this is derived from conversations with a doctors, nurses and an EMTs in San Diego... plus their hearsay.)
I wanted to learn as much as I could before my wife took received the vaccine... which she has been offered. (multiple times)
1. Most of the people who work with patients who have Covid... know that they were not perfectly protected (especially in the beginning) and have most likely been exposed multiple times.
2. Some health care workers who recently received the vaccine have had reactions and called in sick. For instance my wife filled in last night for someone who had the vaccine and was experiencing symptoms.
(but on the flip side.. one of smarter doctors I have met said... why not have symptoms you get paid for 2 weeks.)
3. So if you may get symptoms.. and you are healthy why bother with the vaccine.
(this is derived from conversations with a doctors, nurses and an EMTs in San Diego... plus their hearsay.)
"Who Wants To Be A Guinea Pig?": Health Workers Balk At Vaccine; 40% Of Staff At One Chicago Hospital Refuse To Take
At one Chicago hospital where the city's first COVID-19 vaccine was administered on Tuesday, 40% of the staff said in a survey earlier this month that they would not take it.
Sherrie Burch, 56, a ward clerk at Loretto, is baffled by how quickly the Covid-19 vaccine was developed, given how long medical developments typically take. And that makes her nervous. “It just happened too fast for me,” Burch said, adding that her children, grandchildren and 76-year-old mother aren’t planning to get it either. “It’s the fear of the unknown.”
Burch wants more details about the vaccine’s research and longer-term side effects. She plans to wait at least a couple of months to see how co-workers respond to the shot. Until then, she’ll keep masking, distancing and hand washing.
Some nurses, respiratory therapists and technicians at Loretto also are opting out, said Nikhila Juvvadi, the hospital’s chief clinical officer who was the first person to administer the vaccine in Chicago. At a staff town-hall meeting on Wednesday, she explained the science of how the mRNA Covid-19 vaccine works. -Bloomberg
In Maine, 40% of staff and 30% of residents at the state's larger nursing homes won't take the jab, according to an "informal discussion" conducted by the Maine Health Care Association.
"Without official polling, it’s hard to know how accurate a picture this paints, and we fully expect these percentages to increase with greater education and awareness," said the organization's director of communications, Nadine Grosso. "Ultimately, we know that vaccination is key to safely reopening our long term care facilities."
And if these are all the people who will admit to refusing the vaccine, how many lied and said they will?
EMTs are also at the front of the line for the vaccine, yet approximately 30% of those who travel with New York firefighters are resistant to getting it, according to Annthony Almojera, a lieutenant paramedic who's vice president of FDNY's EMS Officers Union Local 3631.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...-vaccine-40-staff-one-chicago-hospital-refuse
I happen to know a bit about this one since my wife sometimes works with Covid positives at the hospital.
I wanted to learn as much as I could before my wife took received the vaccine... which she has been offered. (multiple times)
1. Most of the people who work with patients who have Covid... know that they were not perfectly protected (especially in the beginning) and have most likely been exposed multiple times.
2. Some health care workers who recently received the vaccine have had reactions and called in sick. For instance my wife filled in last night for someone who had the vaccine and was experiencing symptoms.
(but on the flip side.. one of smarter doctors I have met said... why not have symptoms you get paid for 2 weeks.)
3. So if you may get symptoms.. and you are healthy why bother with the vaccine.
(this is derived from conversations with a doctors, nurses and an EMTs in San Diego... plus their hearsay.)
What's this nonsense with "have symptoms you get paid for 2 weeks"?
Healthcare workers are the only ones not covered under the federal Families First Coronavirus Response Act (FFCRA) for providing COVID sick time for two weeks. I don't know of a single healthcare institution providing two weeks of COVID paid sick time -- the medical workers all have to use their standard accrued sick time if they get COVID.
Millions of health workers are exempt from coronavirus paid sick leave law, study finds
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/17/mil...-exempt-from-cornonavirus-sick-leave-law.html
Healthcare workers lose out on COVID-19 sick leave protections, federal watchdog says
https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/ho...ut-covid-area-sick-leave-protections-oig-says
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-cov...-paid-sick-leave-law-for-health-care-workers/
I happen to know a bit about this one since my wife sometimes works with Covid positives at the hospital.
I wanted to learn as much as I could before my wife took received the vaccine... which she has been offered. (multiple times)
1. Most of the people who work with patients who have Covid... know that they were not perfectly protected (especially in the beginning) and have most likely been exposed multiple times.
2. Some health care workers who recently received the vaccine have had reactions and called in sick. For instance my wife filled in last night for someone who had the vaccine and was experiencing symptoms.
(but on the flip side.. one of smarter doctors I have met said... why not have symptoms you get paid for 2 weeks.)
3. So if you may get symptoms.. and you are healthy why bother with the vaccine.
(this is derived from conversations with a doctors, nurses and an EMTs in San Diego... plus their hearsay.)
Right now, there is not enough vaccine to go around so if someone does not want it, then what the hey.
We have had this pandemic around long enough though to see how the culture works. It is a shaming culture. Shaming people for not wearing masks then dying. Shaming people for calling it the flu and not dying. So it is predictable too that days will come when there will be shaming of people who get or die from covid after refusing the vaccine because they did not think it was necessary.
It is just the way this pandemic rolls I guess. Probably that issue is not upon us just yet in regard to the vaccines due to limited availability but it is coming.
No punchline there.
On every subject you seem to go out of you way to convince us you are the world's least informed Covid fear monger.
You don't know anything health care labor law in CA.
For 2020... you are dead as wrong you fucking idiot.
Yet you had the balls to call it nonsense.
You don't know anything health care labor law in CA.
For 2020... you are dead as wrong you fucking idiot.
Yet you had the balls to call it nonsense.
What's this nonsense with "have symptoms you get paid for 2 weeks"?
Healthcare workers are the only ones not covered under the federal Families First Coronavirus Response Act (FFCRA) for providing COVID sick time for two weeks. I don't know of a single healthcare institution providing two weeks of COVID paid sick time -- the medical workers all have to use their standard accrued sick time if they get COVID.
Millions of health workers are exempt from coronavirus paid sick leave law, study finds
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/17/mil...-exempt-from-cornonavirus-sick-leave-law.html
Healthcare workers lose out on COVID-19 sick leave protections, federal watchdog says
https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/ho...ut-covid-area-sick-leave-protections-oig-says
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-cov...-paid-sick-leave-law-for-health-care-workers/
On every subject you seem to go out of you way to convince us you are the world's least informed Covid fear monger.
You don't know anything health care labor law in CA.
For 2020... you are dead as wrong you fucking idiot.
Yet you had the balls to call in nonsense.
Please provide the California COVID law citation for healthcare workers providing two weeks of paid COVID leave in the state -- otherwise you are pushing nonsense again.
fuck off dunning kruger moron...
try google.
you never provide citations when I ask.
try google.
you never provide citations when I ask.
Please provide the California COVID law citation for healthcare workers providing two weeks of paid COVID leave in the state -- otherwise you are pushing nonsense again.
fuck off dunning kruger moron...
try google.
you never provide citations when I ask.
You might be correct..... I stand corrected --- by the way I nearly always provide citations. For you I don't provide citations when they have already been provided many times already.
California Passes COVID-19 Worker Protection Laws
https://www.ehstoday.com/covid19/article/21144607/california-passes-covid19-worker-protection-laws
Extended paid COVID-19 sick leave for 14 days to healthcare workers in October in CA.
Follow-up note: All the doctors and nurses who work with my daughter in a COVID ward are still pissed they don't get paid COVID leave under FFCRA. About a third have caught COVID and they had to run through all their standard sick time and then take unpaid leave to recover -- which is almost criminal because they got sick directly due to their jobs. Nearly all of them stay hyper-isolated outside of work due to the possible risk of infecting others -- so it's not like they caught COVID outside the hospital.
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I read one of the manufacturers say that it does not provide immunity.
So if that is true... one can't argue they are protecting others by getting it.
from google...does the vaccine provide immunity?
"Can you still get Covid after getting the vaccine?
It’s also not yet known whether the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines protect people from infection entirely, or just from symptoms. That means vaccinated people might still be able to get infected and pass the virus on, although it would likely be at a much lower rateDec 10, 2020
Can I stop wearing a mask after getting a COVID-19 vaccine? | The Seattle Times"
So... I don't see why a young healthy person would even bother with it.
Now... if you read into ha they wrote above... those with the vaccine are or likely to be mildly symptomatic or be asymptomatic... hence pass it on at a much lower rate.
See what I mean by Fauci and friends treating all the fearful morons like mushrooms.
I have been saying that there is very little evidence of asymptomatic spread for months... yet... we had moron after moron here arguing with me.
So if that is true... one can't argue they are protecting others by getting it.
from google...does the vaccine provide immunity?
"Can you still get Covid after getting the vaccine?
It’s also not yet known whether the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines protect people from infection entirely, or just from symptoms. That means vaccinated people might still be able to get infected and pass the virus on, although it would likely be at a much lower rateDec 10, 2020
Can I stop wearing a mask after getting a COVID-19 vaccine? | The Seattle Times"
So... I don't see why a young healthy person would even bother with it.
Now... if you read into ha they wrote above... those with the vaccine are or likely to be mildly symptomatic or be asymptomatic... hence pass it on at a much lower rate.
See what I mean by Fauci and friends treating all the fearful morons like mushrooms.
I have been saying that there is very little evidence of asymptomatic spread for months... yet... we had moron after moron here arguing with me.
Right now, there is not enough vaccine to go around so if someone does not want it, then what the hey.
We have had this pandemic around long enough though to see how the culture works. It is a shaming culture. Shaming people for not wearing masks then dying. Shaming people for calling it the flu and not dying. So it is predictable too that days will come when there will be shaming of people who get or die from covid after refusing the vaccine because they did not think it was necessary.
It is just the way this pandemic rolls I guess. Probably that issue is not upon us just yet in regard to the vaccines due to limited availability but it is coming.
No punchline there.
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