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I'm guessing since the symptoms are like the flu its like the flu,just a guess though.After I get the flu I don't get it again for another 2-5 years but I eventually get it again.I'm guessing this might be the same but GWB is posting articles showing you can get it weeks later after having it the first time.Since I got over it Ive been living with taking no covid precautions what so ever and haven't gotten sick again.

you got it? Which test did you take? How's recovery going?

Sanofi make hydroxychloroquine.. More nonsense.

An interesting and very important thing from the UK and something already dead Swedes can't benefit from.

Coronavirus: A third of hospital patients develop dangerous blood clots

By Richard GalpinBBC News
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-52662065

Hopefully blood thinners might make a difference.
been adding 82mg aspirin to my daily regimen since these reports started coming out
 
Trump promises coronavirus vaccine by end of the year, but his own experts temper expectations
A vaccine has never been developed so quickly.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tru...ine-end-year-experts-temper/story?id=70712823

President Donald Trump is doubling down on his claim that Americans could see a vaccine for the novel coronavirus by the end of the year.

"Another essential pillar of our strategy to keep America open is the development of effective treatments and vaccines as quickly as possible. I want to see if we can do that very quickly," Trump said Friday at an event to highlight his administration's effort to expedite a vaccine, dubbed "Operation Warp Speed." "When I say 'quickly,' we're looking to get it by the end of the year if we can. Maybe before."

But the Trump administration's own medical and scientific experts leading the race to develop a vaccine routinely cast doubt on that timeline.

On Friday, the president tapped Moncef Slaoui, a former pharmaceutical executive, to lead Operation Warp Speed. Even he concedes the goal is formidable.

"Frankly, 12-18 months is already a very aggressive timeline," Slaoui, the former CEO of GlaxoSmithKline, said in an interview with The New York Times. He said he was in agreement with Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, about the challenge that timeline poses.

Still, Slaoui, the former CEO of GlaxoSmithKline, did say mass producing a vaccine by January 2021 is a "credible objective." Slaoui maintained he would not have agreed to head up the White House's effort if he did not think Trump's goals were attainable.

Since the beginning of the coronavirus crisis, Fauci has frequently cited the 12- to 18-month timeline. He delivered a reality check at a Senate hearing Tuesday when he said having a vaccine for the start of the next school year is not possible.

"Even at the top speed we're going, we don't see a vaccine playing in the ability of individuals to get back to school this term," Fauci said.

But when Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, pressed Fauci on the likelihood of developing a vaccine within in a year or two, Fauci was said it's "not a long shot."

"I think it's clearly much more likely than not that somewhere within that time frame we will get a vaccine for this virus," he said.

But Dr. Rick Bright, the former head of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, emphasized to the House Energy and Commerce's Subcommittee on Health Thursday that such a timeline would be unprecedented.

"Normally it takes up to 10 years to make a vaccine. We've done it faster in emergency situations, when we had starting material in the freezer for Ebola, but for a novel virus, this actually hasn't been done yet that quickly," Bright said. "A lot of optimism is swirling around a 12- to 18-month time frame. If everything goes perfectly -- we have never seen everything go perfectly.

"I still think 12 to 18 months is an aggressive schedule, and I think it's going to take longer than that to do so."

On Friday, Defense Secretary Mark Esper echoed the president's claims that the vaccine will be ready in record time.

"We will deliver by the end of this year a vaccine, at scale, to treat the American people and our partners abroad," Esper vowed at the "Operation Warp Speed" event.

But the Pentagon's chief spokesperson, Jonathan Hoffman, told reporters hours later that the timeline is more like a goal than a certainty.

"You set a goal, you have confidence that you're going to put the resources to it to obtain that goal. And I think that's what the secretary, that's what the president, are saying is that we have a goal," Hoffman said.

Currently there are more than 100 vaccines being studied, and at least eight of those have already progressed outside the laboratory and into human studies, according to the World Health Organization. The furthest along include candidates from the University of Oxford, Pfizer, Moderna Therapeutics, Inovio Pharmaceuticals and China's CanSino Biologics.

Many of these vaccines use different technology -- some new to vaccine science -- and experts still don't know which is the most likely to work.

Other experts interviewed by ABC News have agreed with Bright, saying that developing a vaccine within a 12-month time frame could mean throwing normal scientific standards out the window, but added that a vaccine could be available by the new year if everything goes perfectly.

"It is not impossible," said Paul Duprex, Ph.D., director of the Center for Vaccine Research and professor of microbiology and molecular genetics at the University of Pittsburgh. "It's of course very aggressive -- but it is possible."

"You'd have to be lucky," said Dr. Paul Offit, co-inventor of the rotavirus vaccine, who sits on the Food and Drug Administration's vaccine advisory committee. "It would be remarkable, but not completely ridiculous."

Bright also warned Thursday of potential supply chain shortages for necessary materials like vials, needles and syringes, as well as the buffers and solutions used to make the vaccine.

Bright highlighted the importance of a plan to distribute the vaccine, given enough doses for every American will not be ready at once. Creating that plan is one of the goals of Operation Warp Speed.

"If you can imagine this scenario this fall or winter or maybe early next spring when vaccine becomes available; there is no one company that that can produce enough for our country and for the world," Bright said. "It's going to be limited supplies. We need to have a strategy and plan in place now to make sure we can not only fill that vaccine, make it, distribute it, but administer it in a fair and equitable plan."

Trump said Friday his administration is working on a plan to distribute the vaccine, including ramping up production of necessary materials and supplies. The president even mentioned on Thursday the military could be involved in the effort to dispense the vaccine.

"Operation Warp Speed is also making the necessary preparations to distribute these lifesaving treatments at scale. So, we are talking about massive numbers, so that millions of Americans will quickly have access to them," Trump said.

Efforts are already underway to mass produce vaccines that are still being studied, in an attempt to have doses ready to be administered as soon as possible.

"We're going to make production at risk, means we'll start putting hundreds of millions of dollars of federal government money into the development and production of vaccine doses before we even know it works. So that when we do ... ultimately get an effective and safe vaccine, that we will have doses available to everyone who needs it in the United States," Fauci said Tuesday.

Yeah, I won't be taking any vaccine that is rushed.
 
you got it? Which test did you take? How's recovery going?


been adding 82mg aspirin to my daily regimen since these reports started coming out

Had it,in March.My doctor couldnt get me a test when I had it but I got an antibody test later from Labcorp that showed I had it.My doctor knew I had it at the time from my symptoms but with my age and non critical symptoms he couldn't get me a test at the time unless I was hospitalized.

Im over it now.It was like having the flu but much longer than a regular flu.I'm usually over the flu in 3-5 days but this lasted 2 weeks and I lost my sense of taste and smell and I still haven't gotten it fully back.I quarantined myself in a hotel for a month to not spread it to anyone else.Other than not fully getting my taste and smell back I'm fine now.Been out in public with no mask and haven't gotten it again.
 
Scientists warn Oxford vaccine may only give ‘partial protection’ as Northern Ireland eases lockdown
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...quine-death-toll-cases-covid-19-a9521336.html

The global search for treatments and vaccines to bring the coronavirus pandemic to an end is an ongoing challenge, as the outbreak has now infected 4.8 million people worldwide, with over 319,000 deaths.

In the UK, 27,432 people have died from Covid-19. The Government is forging ahead with its gradual easing of lockdown measures.

Oxford vaccine may only offer ‘partial protection’ after results of monkey trial
Scientists have warned that the much-anticipated coronavirus vaccine being developed by researchers at the University of Oxford may only offer “partial protection” following “concerning” results of trials in macaque monkeys.

The full results of the vaccine trials on mice and rhesus macaques at the US National Institute of Health’s Rocky Mountain Laboratory were made public last week in a non-peer-reviewed preprint.

Researchers found a single dose of the vaccine prevented all six monkeys that received it from developing pneumonia, but did not prevent the coronavirus infection.

Some scientists, who were not involvedthe study, raised concerns that if the results were replicated in humans, those vaccinated would still be able to spread Covid-19.

Prof Jonathan Ball of the University of Nottingham said: “If this represents infectious virus and a similar thing occurs in humans, then vaccinated people can still be infected, shed large amounts of virus which could potentially spread to others in the community.

“If the most vulnerable people aren’t protected by the vaccine to the same degree, then this will put them at risk. Therefore, vaccine efficacy in vulnerable populations and the potential for virus shedding in vaccinated people needs very careful monitoring.”
 
Researchers found a single dose of the vaccine prevented all six monkeys that received it from developing pneumonia, but did not prevent the coronavirus infection.

Yeh, what is missing in article is information about whether the monkeys failed to develop coronavirus specific antibodies in the first place so became re-infected or whether they had antibodies shortly after the vaccinations but they lessoned over time or remained high but were still not sufficient.

In contrast Moderna reported the antibodies created by dosage and in humans- and at the highest dosage they studied, it (allegedly) produced 30% higher antibodies than the typical level produced by the average person who has actually had covid. You gotta believe that is good if true. Those "facts" were directly alleged by Moderna's ceo though. So if they are just pumping stock prices or something I don't know. Just saying they are saying the right things and covering points that I need to see.

Also, and this is a simple but important point: ie. Lots of highly effective vaccines require multiple shots or booster shots because one shot does not do the trick. So the fact that one shot at a certain dosage is not effective is not necessarily a show stopper if your results fall short of your goal. Of course, if you got no good results at any level, then that is not a good sign.

That Oxford vaccine mentioned above looks like it might not be effective against covid but the fact that it prevented pneumonia in the monkeys is not to be overlooked or scoffed at. Most people in nursing homes die of pneumonia. The pneumonia flares up as their primary cause of morbidity weakens their immune system and then the pneumonia takes them out. Most cures or treatments in medicine are discovered when you are looking for a cure for something else.
 
So here's something to think about. There has never been a vaccine for any coronavirus, not one, ever. Covid 19 comes along, supposedly more infectious, more deadly, more complicated, more of everything and a couple months in we already have very promising results working towards a vaccine. My bullshit meter is off the chart. Now either these people have never put much effort into previous vaccine research, or this one ain't all that complicated. Yeah they're working hard at it, all hands on deck, but com'on, never ever been able to concoct one and now we're on the cusp of one in a matter of weeks? There is another possibility, these phase one trials are easy peasy to get through and then failures result as they get further along. Just food for thought as I don't believe in all too convenient miracles.
 
So here's something to think about. There has never been a vaccine for any coronavirus, not one, ever. Covid 19 comes along, supposedly more infectious, more deadly, more complicated, more of everything and a couple months in we already have very promising results working towards a vaccine. My bullshit meter is off the chart. Now either these people have never put much effort into previous vaccine research, or this one ain't all that complicated. Yeah they're working hard at it, all hands on deck, but com'on, never ever been able to concoct one and now we're on the cusp of one in a matter of weeks? There is another possibility, these phase one trials are easy peasy to get through and then failures result as they get further along. Just food for thought as I don't believe in all too convenient miracles.

An old fashioned medieval pandemic does tend to generate a lot of attention and a sense of urgency.
 
So here's something to think about. There has never been a vaccine for any coronavirus, not one, ever. Covid 19 comes along, supposedly more infectious, more deadly, more complicated, more of everything and a couple months in we already have very promising results working towards a vaccine. My bullshit meter is off the chart. Now either these people have never put much effort into previous vaccine research, or this one ain't all that complicated. Yeah they're working hard at it, all hands on deck, but com'on, never ever been able to concoct one and now we're on the cusp of one in a matter of weeks? There is another possibility, these phase one trials are easy peasy to get through and then failures result as they get further along. Just food for thought as I don't believe in all too convenient miracles.
You are correct. But as with the seasonal flu, antibodies for this virus will not survive from season to season.

But we don't know yet.
 
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