Quote from Max E. Pad:
I wont ever understand why certain conservatives dont want to see him elected. He is basically perfect on every single fiscal issue, no more wasting money on wars, lower taxes, drastically smaller government.
Quote from Mercor:
A few issues with Ron Paul.
Not extending Due process rights to the helpless unborn.
Giving Federal and State tax incentives to same sex couples, unless he proposes removing all tax advantages and removing the State from marriage.
Pulling back all the International influence the US has through Military and financial aid. We can't allow the Iranians to patrol the Straights of Hormuz or give China control of the Seas around the Pacific. We can't allow the pirates to control the Indian ocean. We can cut down in Europe and make NATO pay more, but no one else but the USA is in a position to enforce International treaties and maintain free movement of goods across the globe.
Might have trouble going to a Gold standard, not enough gold to back the supply of money needed to run a 14 trillion economy
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
I heard Paul advocate replacing the income tax with import and export duties, the way they did it in the days before the voters foolishly approved amending the Constitution to allow the income tax.
I think we should all be able to agree that "free" trade has been an absolute disaster for the working people of this country. As the world's biggest market, we should be dictating trade terms to other countries, one by one. Instead, we gave away our sovereignty to a bunch of euro-socialists under the banner of the WTO.
Look at the way the chinese do it. Our own companies like GE can't sell us out fast enough to be allowed access to their market. They hand over valuable intellectual property, often developed with government grants. It borders on treason, but the elites snicker at that concept.
Quote from Max E. Pad:
I wont ever understand why certain conservatives dont want to see him elected. He is basically perfect on every single fiscal issue, no more wasting money on wars, lower taxes, drastically smaller government.
The only reason i could see a conservative not liking him was if they were very conservative socially, as Ron Paul advocates the government getting out of alot of social issues as well, which is another area i support him on.
Anyways to each his own i guess.
Due Process is a universal right not a State's rights issue. Every person born or unborn should never be considered property no matter will they live.Quote from Max E. Pad:
That basically sums it up, you dont like him because your a social conservative. Nothing wrong with that, but ill just say where he stands on those 2.
He basically believes both of them are states rights issues. In terms of Marriage, he believes that the federal government has no business being involved on that issue whether a person is gay or straight, and I agree.
He also believs abortion is a states rights issue if i remember correctly.
In terms of us policing the world, that game is going to come to an end eventually whether we like it or not. We simply dont have the money to do it anymore. Look at what has happened with Iran and North Korea, both of them have basically thumbed their noses at us while developing their nuclear programs, because they both know we have neither the stomach, nor the money to get into any more full scale wars.
Quote from achilles28:
I agree wholeheartedly. Fortune 100 sold us out. And free trade isn't fair trade. Similar labor cost nations compete equally, otherwise, production migrates to low-cost centers. Paul harps that a strong currency is a capital magnate. In some instances, it's true. But if it were always true, why is China the worlds factory when the Yuan is weaker than the Greenback? I think producers look at the total cost picture when deciding locality (labor cost + tax structure + regulation + transportation + currency value). Paul wants to eliminate personal and corporate income taxes, minimum wage laws, gut onerous regulation and peg the dollar to gold/silver. That would reduce state-side manufacturing costs dramatically. The effect would rival tariffs (restore competitiveness back to "Made in the USA"). Still, I think tariffs ought to be included in overall trade policy, especially against Chindia. Like you said, they're getting a free-ride off our sweat and toil. Outrageous considering a dollar collapse would put the Chinese economy on par with the United States, in terms of size.
Quote from Mercor:
A few issues with Ron Paul.
Not extending Due process rights to the helpless unborn.
Giving Federal and State tax incentives to same sex couples, unless he proposes removing all tax advantages and removing the State from marriage.
Pulling back all the International influence the US has through Military and financial aid. We can't allow the Iranians to patrol the Straights of Hormuz or give China control of the Seas around the Pacific. We can't allow the pirates to control the Indian ocean. We can cut down in Europe and make NATO pay more, but no one else but the USA is in a position to enforce International treaties and maintain free movement of goods across the globe.
Might have trouble going to a Gold standard, not enough gold to back the supply of money needed to run a 14 trillion economy
Quote from Max E. Pad:
The thing that these liberals who are cheering on the destruction of the dollar dont understand is that no matter how much we crush our dollar we arent going to be competitive with China. They pay people in their manufacturing sector 1 dollar per day, we pay them 40k+ per year with all the benefits. We would have to go through an unfathomable amount of pain to get ourselves to a level where we were competitive with China on that level, and we would have to let asset prices seriously deflate.
I agree that the only way we can compete is by taxing them, what do we care if they tax us back, none of these trade imbalances are in our favour anyways, so what does it matter if they turn around and tax us back. Every single country in the world is taking advantage of us as the richest consumers in the world, but no one wants to produce their goods here. The internet created a huge problem for every first world country, as everyone taps into the richest consumers, but produces it in some third world shithole. We are witnessing the greatest transfer of wealth out of our country in history, and something must be done, or else we will lose whats left of our standard of living, perhaps that is what liberals actually want.
Quote from achilles28:
The Republican Party is split between big government, neocon war-mongers and small government, non-interventionist Libertarians (Tea Party). Homo is a big government, neocon warmonger. He wants the US to fight Israel's wars. That's why he supports 'all-hat-no-cattle' Rick Perry. And hates Ron Paul.