Late Day Program Trades

Quote from nutmeg:

According to the latest numbers put out by the New York Stock Exchange, Goldman did twice the number of so-called big program trades during the week of April 13.

In fact, the bulk of the 1.234 billion shares traded by Goldman were done with the firm's own money.

Credit Suisse was second in program-trading size, with 662 million -- half of Goldman's volume.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/0428200...ut_goldman_sachs_role_in_ma_166505.htm?page=2

These are Index Arb trades. They are done in massive size, for a miniscule, yet riskless profit. About 30-50 basis points annualized return. Much of it says its for their account, they prinicpal the trades, then flip them to customers in CFD's. They also sell 'options' offboard, to guarantee certain returns to customers thru CFD, their algorithms constantly delta hedge their exposure looking like program trades. It's not the 'prop' desk, it's the sell-side derivatives desk you are reading about.

So today at 3.41pm with size to buy everywhere, I blindly put out a short in WFC. 3mm to buy on the bell was the imbalance. I sold it at $19.75. It ticked up to 19.77 at 3.42pm, I thought my theory was going by the wayside. I covered at 3.45pm at $19.43. It closed amazingly 15 min later at $19.97. I was so amazed, I forgot to go long it after covering.

:(

Bob Pisani was talking about how the Quant Funds were shorting more into this rally, seeing as they have been decimated by it. Every time he came on he mentioned it how much trouble they were in?
 
Quote from stevesbg:

Where are you getting your imbalance info?

It should come up on your execution screen, most have that capability. If not you can just read the Dow Jones newswire at 3.40pm. All imbalances are posted.
 
Goldman has been by far the biggest program trader by volume on the NYSE (where former Goldman boy Niederauer is CEO). And when I say by far the biggest, I mean the biggest. As you can see from the chart, below Goldman Sachs traded for their principal account (i.e. using the bank’s own funds, provided by the taxpayer through AIG) more than the next 14 largest institutions in the world combined! Goldman traded 1,028,100,000 shares versus 953,000,000 for all other reporting institutions.
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/tetreault/2009/0507.html
 
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