Last US troops leave Iraq as war ends

Max E. · Dec 18, 2011

LOL, so your big reason for supporting Obama when his foreign policy is exactly the same as W's is because he is slightly better then John McCain, the biggest neo con of all times in terms of foreign policy? Nice to see you set the bar so high for obama.

I suppose when/if we end up at war with Iran on Obama's watch, then you will be justifying it by telling us that Obama is still better than Adolf Hitler.

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Max,if McCain had won in 2008 we would still have a large number of troops in Iraq,because Obama won we don't

If McCain had won in 2008 we would probably be at war with Iran now

Don't believe me? Maybe you will believe it if you heard it from someone from your side

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AK Forty Seven · Dec 18, 2011

Quote from Max E. Pad:

LOL, so your big reason for supporting Obama when his foreign policy is exactly the same as W's

Obama would have never invaded Iraq

Lucrum · Dec 18, 2011

Quote from Max E. Pad:

LOL, so your big reason for supporting Obama when his foreign policy is exactly the same as W's is because he is slightly better then John McCain...?

LOL

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

This is late 2011, right?

McCain isn't even remotely relevant to what is happening now, right?

Lucrum · Dec 18, 2011

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Obama would have never invaded Iraq

He had no problem dropping bombs on Libya, and without congressional consent no less.

He had no problem ignoring Pakistan's sovereignty to assassinate Bin laden.
(Which I approve of BTW)

He has no problem detaining or assassination American citizens without due process.

Many prominent democrats at the time were convinced, publicly acknowledged and voted in favor of the invasion.

So...just how is it exactly that you KNOW for a fact that Obama would not have invaded Iraq?
Did he whisper this in your ear while you two were cuddling?

Max E. · Dec 18, 2011

Not to mention Obama specifically wanted the language in the N.D.A.A. bill which would give him the authority to detain u.s. citiens indefinitely without a trial provided that the person had suspected ties to terrorism.

He stripped americans of their most fundamental freedom which is the right to a fair trial, and the right to be protected against unfair prosecution from the government. And liberals like AK47 remained silent.

Its amazing how Obama can do the exact same thing as Bush and in many cases like this one go even further in stripping us of our rights, and guys like ak will just tow the line, and blindly support him.

Quote from Lucrum:

He had no problem dropping bombs on Libya, and without congressional consent no less.

He had no problem ignoring Pakistan's sovereignty to assassinate Bin laden.
(Which I approve of BTW)

He has no problem detaining or assassination American citizens without due process.

Many prominent democrats at the time were convinced, publicly acknowledged and voted in favor of the invasion.

So...just how is it exactly that you KNOW for a fact that Obama would not have invaded Iraq?
Did he whisper this in your ear while you two were cuddling?

Tsing Tao · Dec 18, 2011

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

You used to be more of a dynamic thinker yourself,now you're beginng to resemble the delusional ET righties with Obama derangement syndrome

Obama ended the war.McCain would still have troops there,he said it during the campaign and he said it again recently

Most of the current GOP candidates also said they would keep troops there longer

That doesn't have anything to do with the stupid statement "If Obama wanted to stay longer, we'd stay longer" which is what I challenged.

But that was a pretty good attempt at redirecting my comments to something I was not talking about with the McCain stuff.

CaptainObvious · Dec 18, 2011

Chalk up another loss for America. We accomplished nothing that couldn't have been done with a couple of drones. The place was a shithole when we arrived and it's none the better as we leave. The Iraqi people are no safer, we are no safer and the world is no safer, let alone better. The clear winners, drum role please...the military industrial complex. Trillions in profits, and all it cost them was a few thousand American lives. Cha-ching.

RCG Trader · Dec 18, 2011

Quote from CaptainObvious:

Chalk up another loss for America. We accomplished nothing that couldn't have been done with a couple of drones. The place was a shithole when we arrived and it's none the better as we leave. The Iraqi people are no safer, we are no safer and the world is no safer, let alone better. The clear winners, drum role please...the military industrial complex. Trillions in profits, and all it cost them was a few thousand American lives. Cha-ching.

Overkill.....hey, I had a three day weekend, feeling pretty good

tomdavis · Dec 18, 2011

Quote from Max E. Pad:

But yet you kiss Obama's ass when there is no difference in foreign polcy between the 2. Also we now know that we are fucking around in Iran on Obama's watch as well, so whether Obama will admit to it or not, anyone with a brain knows that we are preparing to go to war with Iran, if they develop the capability to build and launch a nuke.

Todayâs ceremony ending the Iraq war is the withdrawal date negotiated by George W. Bush, not President Obama.

President Obama followed George Wâs exit strategy to a âTâ.

President Obama Expands George Wâs Afghanistan and War on Terror Policies

Candidate Barack Obama completely reversed direction after becoming President Barack Obama.

He continued and/or expanded these George W. policies:

Immediately tripled the drone war in Pakistan
Applied the Bush âsurgeâ strategy in Afghanistan
Reversed himself and kept Guantanamo Bay open
Expanded the war on terror
Ordered the successful killing of Osama Bin Laden
After failing to negotiate a diplomatic settlement with Iran over its nuclear weapons program, Obama ordered drone incursions into Iran.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-turley-civil-liberties-20110929,0,7542436.story

Obama: A disaster for civil liberties

One man is primarily responsible for the disappearance of civil liberties from the national debate, and he is Barack Obama. While many are reluctant to admit it, Obama has proved a disaster not just for specific civil liberties but the civil liberties cause in the United States...

... President Obama not only retained the controversial Bush policies, he expanded on them.

... In time, the election of Barack Obama may stand as one of the single most devastating events in our history for civil liberties.

377OHMS · Dec 18, 2011

Quote from CaptainObvious:

Chalk up another loss for America. We accomplished nothing that couldn't have been done with a couple of drones. The place was a shithole when we arrived and it's none the better as we leave. The Iraqi people are no safer, we are no safer and the world is no safer, let alone better. The clear winners, drum role please...the military industrial complex. Trillions in profits, and all it cost them was a few thousand American lives. Cha-ching.

Yes but the world has been rid of the "Little White Pickup Truck" menace.

My understanding is that your man Obama has simply moved the troops into Jordan to be staged for Iran. I wouldn't wet my panties and award truckloads of additional Nobel prizes to Obama just yet Captain Oblivious.