Last Hope... Faithless Electors

smallfil said:
The fact that the FBI and DOJ have not made any efforts to investigate the massive fraud on top of the Dominion Voting Machines, should tell you that the swamp runs deep filled with numerous swamp creatures. Too many traitors from both parties selling out the US to globalist powers to destroy the US from within. They are probably, at 95% of achieving their goals.
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Did you go to USD Law School?
 
Tsing Tao said:
I'm trying to understand what your thoughts are on this, so if my questions are annoying I apologize.

But it sounds to me as if you are saying that the electors should vote the way you want them to because of checks and balances, and ignore the way the people of their state voted. Is this what you are saying?
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You're tip-toeing very nicely here. But I'm going to do some shit-disturbing and like your reply.
*grin*
 
Tsing Tao said:
I'm trying to understand what your thoughts are on this, so if my questions are annoying I apologize.

But it sounds to me as if you are saying that the electors should vote the way you want them to because of checks and balances, and ignore the way the people of their state voted. Is this what you are saying?
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No.

Routinely, the electors will vote as per the popular vote in their state. But the Founders left open the possibility that the electors might NOT do that. Why would that be the case? Well, because of the situation of this election... where the massive fraud distorted the results in an inaccurate or unfair way. (In the prior election a few on each side were "unfaithful"... some hated Trump and refused to cast their vote for him... same true on Hellary's side. Bottom line on that is they basically offset each other for no net effect. However the "will" of the electors in those cases was expressed.)

The Constitution gave electors the "right" to perhaps vote their conscience even if it was against the majority in their state. (Why would they do that? The 2020 election is a prime example of what the electors COULD have done to say, "not so fast"... let's acknowledge the fraud.) It's interesting that the "official election" of the POTUS comes from the electors.. regardless of the state vote and regardless of what the state "certified" on election night. That is.. election night apparent wins are not official. Nothing is official until the electors vote at their convention... the last chance of principled men to exercise common sense and/or moral conviction. Considering the FBI said they "weren't interested in voter fraud", and the SCOTUS cowardly tucked tail, my last hope for justice was the conscience and conviction of the electors.
 
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Scataphagos said:
No.

Routinely, the electors will vote as per the popular vote in their state. But the Founders left open the possibility that the electors might NOT do that. Why would that be the case? Well, because of the situation of this election... where the massive fraud distorted the results in an inaccurate or infair way. (In the prior election a few on each side were "unfaithful"... some hated Trump and refused to cast their vote for him... same true on Hellary's side. Bottom line on that is they basically offset each other for no net effect. However the "will" of the electors in those cases was expressed.)

The Constitution gave electors the "right" to perhaps vote their conscience even if it was against the majority in their state. (Why would they do that? The 2020 election is a prime example of what the electors COULD have done to say, "not so fast"... let's acknowledge the fraud.) It's interesting that the "official election" of the POTUS comes from the electors.. regardless of the state vote and regardless of what the state "certified" on election night. That is.. election night apparent wins are not official. Nothing is official until the electors vote at their convention... the last chance of principled men to exercise common sense and/or moral conviction.
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That's correct. That indeed was part of the reason for the electoral college. To keep a traitor, a foreign puppet, a criminal from being president. They could have easily kept Biden from being elected as a criminal and foreign puppet in my view, but chose to rubber-stamp.
 
Scataphagos said:
No.

Routinely, the electors will vote as per the popular vote in their state. But the Founders left open the possibility that the electors might NOT do that. Why would that be the case? Well, because of the situation of this election... where the massive fraud distorted the results in an inaccurate or unfair way. (In the prior election a few on each side were "unfaithful"... some hated Trump and refused to cast their vote for him... same true on Hellary's side. Bottom line on that is they basically offset each other for no net effect. However the "will" of the electors in those cases was expressed.)

The Constitution gave electors the "right" to perhaps vote their conscience even if it was against the majority in their state. (Why would they do that? The 2020 election is a prime example of what the electors COULD have done to say, "not so fast"... let's acknowledge the fraud.) It's interesting that the "official election" of the POTUS comes from the electors.. regardless of the state vote and regardless of what the state "certified" on election night. That is.. election night apparent wins are not official. Nothing is official until the electors vote at their convention... the last chance of principled men to exercise common sense and/or moral conviction. Considering the FBI said they "weren't interested in voter fraud", and the SCOTUS cowardly tucked tail, my last hope for justice was the conscience and conviction of the electors.
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The Supreme Court ruled that states can make electors vote the way the state says their electors are chosen.


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The Chinese and particularly Russians are laughing their asses off. And the rest of the world enjoys the show. American kids without pubic hair slinging big words.

Please stop being so narrow minded, it is laughable. Your entire corporate and government apparatus was just hacked in one of the greatest heists ever. China will soon completely rid itself of any US dependence. Who will then buy American debt? Can't fool the planet forever. Guys, there are much bigger fish to fry than your cute skirmishes around Agent Orange.
 
Buy1Sell2 said:
That's correct. That indeed was part of the reason for the electoral college. To keep a traitor, a foreign puppet, a criminal from being president. They could have easily kept Biden from being elected as a criminal and foreign puppet in my view, but chose to rubber-stamp.
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Meaningless faithless elector ruling in The Supreme Court. There is no mechanism in the states to correct a vote from a faithless elector nor to punish them with more than a fine. It still stands then that it's up to the states to choose electors in the end.
 
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