"Electors who don't cast their vote as per the popular vote in their state"... that's the definition of "faithless elector".
Last Hope... Faithless Electors
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"Electors who don't cast their vote as per the popular vote in their state"... that's the definition of "faithless elector".
Sorry, which electors aren't passing their vote as per the popular vote?
May not be any. There were some in Trump vs. Hellary last time, so I've read.
The "Last Hope" was that some states were pissed enough about the fraud to "abstain" at the convention... leaving Biden with <270 votes... and the winner would be determined by "other constitutional means".
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Electoral College Cements Joe Biden's Victory With Zero Faithless Electors
BY ALEXANDRA HUTZLER ON 12/14/20 AT 7:09 PM EST
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/electoral-college-cements-joe-bidens-victory-zero-faithless-electors-1554660?amp=1
That's a Zero.
BY ALEXANDRA HUTZLER ON 12/14/20 AT 7:09 PM EST
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/electoral-college-cements-joe-bidens-victory-zero-faithless-electors-1554660?amp=1
That's a Zero.
But that's where faithless would come in, no? If the last hope, as you call it, had occurred and some states did not certify Biden when those states won the popular vote, they would be the faithless electors, no?
I don't believe so. I think the term "faithless" in this sense is specifically for electors who don't vote the way of the popular vote in their state at the EC convention.
Even though a state "certifies" the election for a candidate, the elector can still vote a different way. (33 states "require" their electors to vote the way of the popular vote in their state. 17 states have no such "requirement", though they almost always do. I wonder what would happen if electors in the "required" states cast their vote in a different way? The legislature "back home" would be bent of course, but what else?) Seems to me this was the potential "last ditch remedy" included in the Constitution for a case exactly like this election.... where regardless of the corruption or fraud, the electors could still have one more chance to overrule it, which I was hopeful they'd do this time. I mind very much this swing towards "Full Commie" Socialism and open borders. I'm outraged that it occurred at this time because of massive voter fraud and a gutless SCOTUS who wouldn't even hear the arguments and allow the evidence to be presented. (Dick Morris postulates that the SCOTUS was intimidated by the the Dems who hinted/threatened "packing the court".... making the court less viable and perhaps even moot eventually. So... they chickened out. Could be. So much for "checks and balances.")
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When Congress/Electoral College assembles Jan 6th to count the vote, at that point there could be objections. If I understand it correctly, the Vice President will preside over both House and Senate for discussion.
Expect fireworks.
Edit, it depends a lot on what happens between now and Jan 6th.
Expect fireworks.
Edit, it depends a lot on what happens between now and Jan 6th.
Both House and Senate have to agree to throw out a states EC votes,good luck with that.