Larry Elder....really?

[UsualName]

You can get these maps with a key but I don’t think you really need one.

First map is the recall results, the second is current Covid cases. Like I said, it’s astounding how these things go hand-in-hand.

 

[jem]

Like I said in the other thread... some of the areas on the left like L.A. had massive covid outbreaks a few months ago.

 

[Snarkhund]

What I am criticizing is the belief that Elder would be able to come in and just magically change an entire system...

He would have been able to do little... that is true.

But in California little can still be big for example the high speed rail system ("to nowhere")... I think Elder would have cancelled that in as much as it can be cancelled and I'm acknowledging that the next Gov. could simply restore the project.

Probably Elder may have been able to make a dent in the current fire management strategies and might have been able to get some money spent on the electric and water infrastructure. I suspect he would somehow have restored water to the central valley farmers, perhaps by re-initiating the River Delta Tunnel project etc.

Elder would have been able to set the agenda for Covid response so that would certainly have looked differently though I think the teachers union would simply raise the middle finger and wait him out.

It would have been a very unpleasant job but I honestly think Elder would not have botched it. We aren't going to find out but I wonder if Elder will now consider some other office because he obviously had some popularity even in a leftist state.

 

[Cuddles]

I love how the Right spins Cali as this third world state with a $3T GDP and AHP of $820K.

These clowns bitch about the homeless refugees California takes in from all over the country because the state refuses to criminalize homelessness like red states.

 

[destriero]

While I respect your schooling.
I don't care if you are Austan Goolsbee. I would not completely agree with him, if he made your statements either.

The curves represent far more than you claimed.
Yes, in some places they show what you say.
But there are other locations on the curve to examine.

Just go to the ends of the curves and think about it.
100 percent tax of nothing is less revenue than 90 percent of some profit/income.
on the other side
10% of something will be more than 0 percent.



b. Laffer did not create the concepts in any way shape or form. The concepts are basic to economic theory.
As I said the question is, where we are on the curve. Not, that the curves exist.

c. For instance... Keynes himself taught the concept...

"When, on the contrary, I show, a little elaborately, as in the ensuing chapter, that to create wealth will increase the national income and that a large proportion of any increase in the national income will accrue to an Exchequer, amongst whose largest outgoings is the payment of incomes to those who are unemployed and whose receipts are a proportion of the incomes of those who are occupied...

Nor should the argument seem strange that taxation may be so high as to defeat its object, and that, given sufficient time to gather the fruits, a reduction of taxation will run a better chance than an increase of balancing the budget. For to take the opposite view today is to resemble a manufacturer who, running at a loss, decides to raise his price, and when his declining sales increase the loss, wrapping himself in the rectitude of plain arithmetic, decides that prudence requires him to raise the price still more--and who, when at last his account is balanced with nought on both sides, is still found righteously declaring that it would have been the act of a gambler to reduce the price when you were already making a loss."

I addressed that in the first sentence. Obv the rate of taxation is inversely proportional to NIAT, but Reagan and Brownback proved that it balloons the debt and is not pro growth. Debt explodes, pro-growth infrastructure goes to shit, unemployment rises.

Dude, now you're arguing demand (Keynes) and supply (fucktard) side when you apparently think they are the same.

 

[destriero]

Like I said in the other thread... some of the areas on the left like L.A. had massive covid outbreaks a few months ago.

You mean like before the vaccine rollout? WTF is Floriduh's excuse, Bro? Mississippi? Louisiana? Alabama? Arkansas? Every fucktard Red State?

 

[destriero]

Take a guess on the number of new COVID cases in CA on Sep 14, 2021...

8,800: one in 4,500 Californians.

And in FL?

24,000: one in 900 Floridians.

5X the case rate in Floriduh.

 

[UsualName]

I just want people to pay their fair share
Why do the bottom 50% who earn 11.6% of income only pay 2.6% of taxes
The top 1% earn 21% of income and pay 40% of taxes...This is ok..They are paying more then their fair share

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Im just going to reiterate the biggest scam in America is you’re treated as a genius if you get money from the government and you’re rich but you’re treated like loser if you get anything from the government and you work for a living.

Prime example:

 

[piezoe]

Looks pretty accomplished to me.

An accomplished con artist with zero integrity, that is. The worst thing about Elder, and all the other Republican Politicians who have tied themselves to Trump's coattails, is that he, like Trump, lacks integrity. All of these politicians who have publicly tied themselves to Trump, the entertainer, know that the election was not stolen but that Trump actually attempted to steal it, but failed. They all depend on ignorant followers whom they persistently, and knowingly lie to. They are among the worst examples of our species that can be imagined. .....

This lack of integrity is no where better illustrated then in both Trump's and Elder's insistence before their respective elections in which they ran and were defeated, that if they didn't win it would be because the election was rigged. This is no different then maintaining that the only way they could lose is if the election was "stolen" from them. They both said this, before the election despite independent, professional agencies haven shown that they were expected to lose. Then they persisted with this lie even after they did in fact lose! These men are failing con artists. The number of U.S. Citizens that self identify as Republicans is shrinking. And for very good reasons having nothing to do with political philosophy.

 

[Ricter]

Very accomplished con artist with zero integrity. The worst thing about Elder and all the other Republican Politicians who have tied themselves to Trump's coatails, is that they, like Trump, all lack personal integrity. They all know that the election was not stolen, and that Trump attempted to steal it, but failed. They all depend on ignorant followers whom they persistently, and knowingly lie to. They are among the worst examples of our species that can be imagined.

Same poster probably called Obama's accomplishments fake.