Largest Cities in North America By Population

These things keep surprising me ...

(I'd have put money on Mexico City having a larger population than NYC; I thought Toronto had more population than Montreal, but I've still have guessed Montreal much higher than 19th, overall
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I would like to know how they calculated the population of New York City as 23+ million. I understand that they are including some of the surrounding areas, but if you add the population of NYC (8.5 million) + Westchester (0.9 million) + New Jersey (8.8 million) + Connecticut (3.6 million) it only adds up to 21.8 million, and I would estimate that less than half of New Jersey and Connecticut is anywhere near NYC.
 
DaveV said:
I would like to know how they calculated the population of New York City as 23+ million. I understand that they are including some of the surrounding areas, but if you add the population of NYC (8.5 million) + Westchester (0.9 million) + New Jersey (8.8 million) + Connecticut (3.6 million) it only adds up to 21.8 million, and I would estimate that less than half of New Jersey and Connecticut is anywhere near NYC.
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The numbers look like Metropolitan Statistical Areas (MSA)...at least for the US. That's defined by the census bureau. No one has ever come up with a good definition of this in my opinion--at least not any that's been widely adopted.

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beerntrading said:
The numbers look like Metropolitan Statistical Areas (MSA)...at least for the US. That's defined by the census bureau. No one has ever come up with a good definition of this in my opinion--at least not any that's been widely adopted.

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Yep, you are right. The map shows that they include all of New Jersey, Connecticut, Westchester and Long Island. There is a lot of farm land and forest that they include in New York CITY.
 
DaveV said:
Yep, you are right. The map shows that they include all of New Jersey, Connecticut, Westchester and Long Island. There is a lot of farm land and forest that they include in New York CITY.
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Back in the day they called it the "tri-state area". Seems about right that it would be the most populated metro area in the US.
 
DaveV said:
I would like to know how they calculated the population of New York City as 23+ million. I understand that they are including some of the surrounding areas, but if you add the population of NYC (8.5 million) + Westchester (0.9 million) + New Jersey (8.8 million) + Connecticut (3.6 million) it only adds up to 21.8 million, and I would estimate that less than half of New Jersey and Connecticut is anywhere near NYC.
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Perhaps they count the entire state of NY as NYC?
 
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