large study finds that (hydroxy)chloroquine killing more than it "cures"

Bugenhagen said:
The joys of being a sniper in my old work, understandably when guys could fire back they don't fuck around, mortars, RPGs, lots of BMGs and if course the "is that a tank!?" moment or two when embedded with some army guys (normally I just wrecked poacher's Toyota Hiluxes and boats). One blast was being next to a guy who stood on a mine. The shock waves play merry hell with tissue and nerves.

But yes, I have already have one of four move out of position, teething problems but the doc figures good for 20 years. By then I expect they will just grow a new one.

I just climb stairs with a suitcase full of water bottles held out on front as much as possible, current building in the city has 30 floors and a couple of decently sized emergency stairs. My new forge was great exercise until we moved to the farm for lockdown. Hammering steel is real work and more interesting than the gym for me as I'm actually making stuff.

A pain about the heart fibs is the 'can I eat that?' with junk food now as I'm sensitive to salt and especially hotdogs if they have a particular preservative. A minute on the lips, a night of náusea and general weird feeling pumper.
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If you don't get along with nitrates then its not just hot dogs but Prosciutto, Salami, Pepperoni and most cured meats. Bologna probably ok and some others.

The salt thing is edema so yeah but you still need iodine somehow. When half the world gave up salt a lot of people turned up with hypothyroidism a few years later.
 
Snarkhund said:
If you don't get along with nitrates then its not just hot dogs but Prosciutto, Salami, Pepperoni and most cured meats. Bologna probably ok and some others.

The salt thing is edema so yeah but you still need iodine somehow. When half the world gave up salt a lot of people turned up with hypothyroidism a few years later.
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Yep, the salt Peter and I are not compatible, stay off the prison juice. Pepperoni seems OK, at least on pizza.
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Works better for covid-19 than this.. Lancet study carries weight. Wait for the but zinc, and when more evidence against that, oh but the wrong type of zinc etc. though the heart problem remains.

www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-52779309

The Lancet study involved 96,000 coronavirus patients, nearly 15,000 of whom were given hydroxychloroquine - or a related form chloroquine - either alone or with an antibiotic.

The study found that the patients were more likely to die in hospital and develop heart rhythm complications than other Covid patients in a comparison group.

The death rates of the treated groups were: hydroxychloroquine 18%; chloroquine 16.4%; control group 9%. Those treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine in combination with antibiotics had an even higher death rate.

The researchers warned that hydroxychloroquine should not be used outside of clinical trials.
 
The French government on Wednesday revoked a decree authorising hospitals to prescribe the controversial drug for Covid-19 patients after France’s public health watchdog warned against its use to treat the disease.

https://www.france24.com/en/2020052...g-use-of-hydroxychloroquine-to-treat-covid-19

The drug has been the subject of much debate in France, where “maverick” Professor Didier Raoult claimed in March to have successfully treated Covid-19 patients using a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin.

However, doctors have questioned the value of Professor Raoult’s study, saying it was poorly designed and based on too small a sample to offer hard evidence of benefit.

Last month the European Medicines Agency warned that there was no indication HCQ could treat Covid-19 and said some studies had seen serious and sometimes fatal heart problems in patients.
 
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