Labor Dept. Banning Farm Chores For Kids

Lucrum · Apr 26, 2012

Quote from Tom B:

Obama administration flip flops.

I thought only Romney flip flopped.

Free Thinker · Apr 26, 2012

Quote from Mav88:

Unless you are a liberal, you very quickly can catch on that having loose clothing around a power take-off is a bad idea for instance.

you stupid moron. how do you think you "catch on" that it is dangerous to have loose clothing around a power takeoff?
you dont get a second chance with something like that. in one second its all over for you.

here is what happens when a person gets caught in a pto:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBSwOS90wgQ

Lucrum · Apr 26, 2012

Quote from Free Thinker:

you stupid moron. how do you think you "catch on" that it is dangerous to have loose clothing around a power takeoff?

Common fucking sense, no government intrusion required.
Well...except for leftist morons like you.

Max E. · Apr 26, 2012

HAHAHAHA

Yeah perhaps we should also ban kids from mowing the lawn, because if a kid LEAVES THE FUCKING MOWER ON while he sticks his hand in and tries to unclog some wet grass, he will lose his hand.....

This video just goes to show you how insane people like Free Thinker really are....

They really think that the government can stop every single person in the world from doing something stupid, no matter how ridiculously stupid that action may be...

Maybe next up we should ban people under the age of 30 from driving, because they could get run over by the car if they decide to change the oil while the car is on and it is still in drive.....

Quote from Lucrum:

Common fucking sense, no government intrusion required.
Well...except for leftist morons like you.

Max E. · Apr 26, 2012

If you pause this video at 0:30 seconds you will notice that the scarecrow has a string from his sleeve tied around the PTO shaft right before he starts it....

So i guess the message in this comical Public service announcement is:

"If you are a scarecrow, Dont tie your sleeve around the PTO shaft, then lean against it, then start it"

Big Government: "Saving the world with your money, 1 strawman at a time."

Quote from Free Thinker:

you stupid moron. how do you think you "catch on" that it is dangerous to have loose clothing around a power takeoff?
you dont get a second chance with something like that. in one second its all over for you.

here is what happens when a person gets caught in a pto:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBSwOS90wgQ

RCG Trader · Apr 27, 2012

Quote from Tom B:

Obama administration flip flops.

Govt backs off new limits on child labor on farms

By SAM HANANEL
Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Under heavy pressure from farm groups, the Obama administration said Thursday it would drop an unpopular plan to prevent children from doing hazardous work on farms owned by anyone other than their parents.

The Labor Department said it is withdrawing proposed rules that would ban children younger than 16 from using most power-driven farm equipment, including tractors. The rules also would prevent those younger than 18 from working in feed lots, grain bins and stockyards.

While labor officials said their goal was to reduce the fatality rate for child farm workers, the proposal had become a popular political target for Republicans who called it an impractical, heavy-handed regulation that ignored the reality of small farms.

"It's good the Labor Department rethought the ridiculous regulations it was going to stick on farmers and their families," said Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa. "To even propose such regulations defies common sense, and shows a real lack of understanding as to how the family farm works."

The surprise move comes just two months after the Labor Department modified the rule in a bid to satisfy opponents. The agency made it clear it would exempt children who worked on farms owned or operated by their parents, even if the ownership was part of a complex partnership or corporate agreement.

That didn't appease farm groups that complained it would upset traditions in which many children work on farms owned by uncles, grandparents and other relatives to reduce costs and learn how a farm operates. The Labor Department said Thursday it was responding to thousands of comments that expressed concern about the impact of the changes on small family-owned farms.

"The Obama administration is firmly committed to promoting family farmers and respecting the rural way of life, especially the role that parents and other family members play in passing those traditions down through the generations," the agency said in a statement.

Instead, the agency said it would work with rural stakeholders, including the American Farm Bureau Federation, the National Farmers Union and 4-H to develop an educational program to reduce accidents to young workers.

Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., a grain farmer known to till his fields on weekends away from Washington, had come out strongly against the proposed rule. The Democrat continued to criticize the Obama administration rule even after it was tempered earlier this year, saying the Labor Department "clearly didn't get the whole message" from Montana's farmers and ranchers.

Tester, who is in a tough race for re-election, on Thursday praised the decision to withdraw the rule and said he would fight "any measure that threatens that heritage and our rural way of life."

The move is sure to disappoint child safety groups who said the rules represent long-overdue protections for children working for hire in farm communities. Three-quarters of working children under 16 who died of work-related injuries in 2010 were in agriculture, according to the Child Labor Coalition.

Last month, the child advocacy group criticized GOP legislation that would have stopped the Labor Department from issuing the rules.

"They will save lives and preserve the health of farm children so they can grow up to be farmers," said Reid Maki, the CLC coordinator. "The department should implement them as soon as possible."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-04-26-19-44-56

I knew this would not make it past the Farm Bureau

Max E. · Apr 27, 2012

Quote from RCG Trader:

I knew this would not make it past the Farm Bureau

Ill give you this one, it was a good call, I have lost all faith in government so it wasnt going to come as a shocker to me if it went through.

The funny thing is that i met a lot of small town kids who worked on farms when i was playing hockey, and they always had incredible work ethic, and they were usually the best athletes from having to do hard physical work all day.

I have seen nothing but upside from the people i have met who grew up as farm kids, quite frankly ALL kids would be better off spending a little time doing that kind of work growing up.

Its just another case where a "bright idea" from the government fucks most kids in an attempt to save an almost non existent group of kids.....

RCG Trader · Apr 27, 2012

Quote from Max E. Pad:

Ill give you this one, it was a good call, I have lost all faith in government so it wasnt going to come as a shocker to me if it went through.

The funny thing is that i met a lot of small town kids who worked on farms when i was playing hockey, and they always had incredible work ethic, and they were usually the best athletes from having to do hard physical work all day.

I have seen nothing but upside from the people i have met who grew up as farm kids, quite frankly ALL kids would be better off spending a little time doing that kind of work growing up.

Its just another case where a "bright idea" from the government fucks most kids in an attempt to save an almost non existent group of kids.....

What is getting annoying to me is that Pres. Obama is making mistakes that he does not have to make. Chicago dominates the northern half of the state, Peoria dominates the southern half of the state. All he had to do to avoid the Catholic flap and this little mess is to send one of his advisors here and do something other than tour CAT.

The schools here in Peoria hate playing the surrounding county schools in football. Why? Because they hit hard, run clean plays and tackle well.

Rural folks have the kind of conservatism that most sane people can sign on to. That is what conservatism is, not this right wing crap the GOP is going get killed on this year.

BTW Achilles, nice thread.

Mav88 · Apr 27, 2012

you stupid moron. how do you think you "catch on" that it is dangerous to have loose clothing around a power takeoff?

It was expained to me by the farmer in plain terms, I could tell by how serious he was that it wasn't something to take any risks with.

No program needed from a never-worked-a-day-in-their-life do-gooder stupid liberal, just people using their noodle. Nobody once ever said 'I think we need a gov't intervention and a safety course' in all the time I spent around farmers.

murray t turtle · Apr 27, 2012

Quote from Mav88:

the enemies of liberty at work, emotional arguments about safety in order to control.

we need to ban homes, one of the most dangerous places to be according to stats. free thinker has a got a government program to keep you safe in his gov't shelter

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Good shot, it hit the bullseye.

It seems some Democrats in farm states;
and conservatives, Farm Bureau members ..simply do not want to make a God out of gov

FOX news reported the same thing, but used different words

Democrat /grain farmer/Senator Jon Tester [MT] in a tough race for relection, ''praised the decision to withdraw the rule''

LOL