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Amangod · May 30, 2009

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I have already watched KP live so I really don't need to see anything else. I already know the deal as they are just another set of tweaked indicators......nothing more and nothing less.

Well that's your problem.. you've watched someone elses methodology.. and I bet it had a million indicators on the chart as is Wayne's way

But you still can't fault my chart which is why you are punking out

Amangod · May 30, 2009

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show me some "chop" market screen shots!

Well I shouldn't have to tell a trader that it's their responsibility not to trade chop.. no system will do that for you

Amangod · May 30, 2009

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Well of course, in a hand picked still shot chart image

The entries are clearly defined to the minute.. there is no wriggle room within that 60 seconds.. it either closes above the trigger or doesn't..

I know you actually get that but you can't admit it or you've lost the debate.. the market has a way of dealing with people who need to be right Chris

AMT4SWA · May 30, 2009

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Well I shouldn't have to tell a trader that it's their responsibility not to trade chop.. no system will do that for you

I LOVE rotational chop as price reacts to a key support/resistance level.....many opportunities to build a good position trade.

Amangod · May 30, 2009

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I LOVE rotational chop as price reacts to a key support/resistance level.....many opportunities to build a good position trade.

What a pity that isn't the only type of chop Chris or we'd all be driving Lambos

AMT4SWA · May 30, 2009

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The entries are clearly defined to the minute.. there is no wriggle room within that 60 seconds.. it either closes above the trigger or doesn't..

I know you actually get that but you can't admit it or you've lost the debate.. the market has a way of dealing with people who need to be right Chris

The real key point I am trying to make is, to not become dependent on "indicators" derived from price.....they are not the most optimal path in trading imo.

AMT4SWA · May 30, 2009

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What a pity that isn't the only type of chop Chris or we'd all be driving Lambos

Well, a price derived indicator will definitely NEVER tell you the difference.

AMT4SWA · May 30, 2009

Quote from Amangod:

I know you actually get that but you can't admit it or you've lost the debate.. the market has a way of dealing with people who need to be right Chris

Your only true debate is with the market.....not with me!

Amangod · May 30, 2009

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The real key point I am trying to make is, to not become dependent on "indicators" derived from price.....they are not the most optimal path in trading imo.

Yeah but it's a stupid point when there have been so many successful traders that have used indicators and couldn't have traded any other way.. if they took your advice they never would have been successful

You sound quite foolish claiming indicators are not "optimal" just because you had no success with them.. for some indicators are optimal for their psychology and trading style

AMT4SWA · May 30, 2009

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Yeah but it's a stupid point when there have been so many successful traders that have used indicators and couldn't have traded any other way.. if they took your advice they never would have been successful

You sound quite foolish claiming indicators are not "optimal" just because you had no success with them.. for some indicatorsare optimal for their psychology and trading style

I FULLY disagree. Price derived indicators ARE NOT what makes a trader successful.