Kung Flu

[Dr. Love]

At the moment, I've seen no evidence that masks are preventative except for the fact that they could train you not to touch your face. I would not be surprised to hear soon that a vaccine is not even necessary with the level of herd immunity that is taking place.

Vaccines are an integral part of the plan. Have you heard of the vaccine passports?

 

[Buy1Sell2]

Vaccines are an integral part of the plan. Have you heard of the vaccine passports?

No.

 

[vanzandt]

with the level of herd immunity that is taking place.

Is there a link for that reference? Everything I've read say the antibodies are worthless after a few months. Thousands of documented re-infections occurring across Europe now. It would appear herd immunity will not work in absence of a vaccine.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Is there a link for that reference? Everything I've read say the antibodies are worthless after a few months. Thousands of documented re-infections occurring across Europe now. It would appear herd immunity will not work in absence of a vaccine.

On a similar topic.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1295051308488065030

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Is there a link for that reference? Everything I've read say the antibodies are worthless after a few months. Thousands of documented re-infections occurring across Europe now. It would appear herd immunity will not work in absence of a vaccine.

But then again, most of the vaccines mode of action is by introducing antigens that create antibodies. The same antibodies that allegedly are worthless after a few months.

 

[Tsing Tao]

But then again, most of the vaccines mode of action is by introducing antigens that create antibodies. The same antibodies that allegedly are worthless after a few months.

Precisely. The memory cells are still there, will always be there. Suggestions otherwise are asinine.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

Thousands of documented re-infections occurring across Europe now.

Very doubtful in my view.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Precisely. The memory cells are still there, will always be there. Suggestions otherwise are asinine.

Yes. You do not go back to being virginal even if all of the antibodies from previous infection have disappeared or weakened, because the T-cells have downloaded and contain the "software" for creating new antibodies at a much faster rate and in a target specific way. Whereas the first time around the body has to cast around with trial and error.

Similarly, some people will argue that a flu vaccine or a previous flu infection is worthless as tits on a nun because people still get it year after year with or without the vaccine or regardless of whether they have it before.

Yes and no. Yes, in that the immunity is often not sufficient to deal a knock out blow to the virus such that it is immediately neutralized and so therefore you have to deal with a mild case of it. No, in the sense that it definitely provides massive protection from mortality among everyone who has at least some remnant of an immune system left. The flu and the common cold are absolutely and totally lethal to people who have had no previous exposure. You can wipe out half the tribes in the Amazon with a virus where they have had no exposure. So on a very significant level, even partial immunity is enormously beneficial.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

Very doubtful in my view.

There are numerous coronavirus strains out there. Some colds are caused by coronavirus strains.

 

[Dr. Love]

Yes. You do not go back to being virginal even if all of the antibodies from previous infection have disappeared or weakened, because the T-cells have downloaded and contain the "software" for creating new antibodies at a much faster rate and in a target specific way. Whereas the first time around the body has to cast around with trial and error.

Similarly, some people will argue that a flu vaccine or a previous flu infection is worthless as tits on a nun because people still get it year after year with or without the vaccine or regardless of whether they have it before.

Yes and no. Yes, in that the immunity is often not sufficient to deal a knock out blow to the virus such that it is immediately neutralized and so therefore you have to deal with a mild case of it. No, in the sense that it definitely provides massive protection from mortality among everyone who has at least some remnant of an immune system left. The flu and the common cold are absolutely and totally lethal to people who have had no previous exposure. You can wipe out half the tribes in the Amazon with a virus where they have had no exposure. So on a very significant level, even partial immunity is enormously beneficial.

Great points but that doesn't explain why hundreds of doctors have died of the CCP virus. Too much exposure? Wouldn't the immune system be stronger to fight off subsequent infections?