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The close FV is moving in the opposite direction of the market. Don't know what to make of it.

Calibrated FV, 1213.44. FV 1331.10.
 
Exited another 1/4 of position at 1190 ish SPX for a decent profit. Still have a small but not insignificant position.

FV little changed from yesterday close.
 
Calibrated FV has dropped dramatically @ 1199.03. FV 1328.90.

I don't know what to make of these movements, but I am glad that I have lightened up my position.
 
Calibrated FV 1197.41. FV 1336.30.

I considered adding long at 1142 ish, but hesitated and by then I no longer felt comfortable.
 
Quote from nitro:

I agree but see below. Right now the market is probably giddy on a Jackson Hole announcement. Still, I am playing FV, not any of that.

The biggest worry I have is a recession. Stocks lose on average 40% of their value during a recession. So since we had lost nearly 20%, you can tell that the market has about a 37% probability of a recession.

I am increasing the complexity of the model to take GDP and other things into consideration soon. It is easy to say, but coming up with the equations to fit everything else is what counts. I have an idea of how to do it.

Here will be some inputs (I will discuss these, but not what is in it now)

Real GDP (Y/Y)
Monthly GDP
Chicago Fed National Activity Index
Chicago PMI
The Streettalk ISM Composite Index
Richmond Fed Manufacturing Survey
Philly Fed Survey
Dallas Fed Survey
Kansas City Fed Survey
The National Federation of Independent Business Survey
Leading economic indicator

The whole purpose of these indicators will be to give me some discount factor that will scale FV.

Nitro, you may be thinking too much! Try to keep one foot in the real world. It's the action of a desperate cadre of thieves you are trying to model; not some particle accelerator. :D

Good luck to you nevertheless, and thank you for your interesting posts..
 
You seem like a bright guy. My model takes in unemployment as a buy signal, since unemployment mean reverts. However, this time it hasn't and people are calling it a new normal. I know you use a neutral net, but do you know then effect of each node in an economically intuitive way?

A separate topic. Do you calculate Sharpe and percentage up days? I have been working on the mathematical relationship between them. What does it mean when they disagree? Non-normality or dataming?

Quote from nitro:

I agree but see below. Right now the market is probably giddy on a Jackson Hole announcement. Still, I am playing FV, not any of that.

The biggest worry I have is a recession. Stocks lose on average 40% of their value during a recession. So since we had lost nearly 20%, you can tell that the market has about a 37% probability of a recession.

I am increasing the complexity of the model to take GDP and other things into consideration soon. It is easy to say, but coming up with the equations to fit everything else is what counts. I have an idea of how to do it.

Here will be some inputs (I will discuss these, but not what is in it now)

Real GDP (Y/Y)
Monthly GDP
Chicago Fed National Activity Index
Chicago PMI
The Streettalk ISM Composite Index
Richmond Fed Manufacturing Survey
Philly Fed Survey
Dallas Fed Survey
Kansas City Fed Survey
The National Federation of Independent Business Survey
Leading economic indicator

The whole purpose of these indicators will be to give me some discount factor that will scale FV.
 
Quote from noddyboy:
... My model takes in unemployment as a buy signal, since unemployment mean reverts. However, this time it hasn't and people are calling it a new normal.
With a heavy heart I have to say that high unemployment is likely a new normal. This economy was sustained by so much retail and financial services it was scary. There is such huge overcapacity and redundancy in retail that a whole slew of people may still lose their jobs. Still, shopping is as American as apple pie. Financial services are also being scaled back in droves with people exiting the stock market and the housing market in shambles.

Where there are prospects for employment, high tech jobs and health care related jobs, I see many young Americans going into nursing - a smart move. On the other hand, I see very few Americans going into more science related jobs like programming, semi-conductors, biology, etc. It seems as if these jobs are going to Asians and Indians. The whole notion of work is getting really strange, and the new normal is that you may have to reinvent yourself at least twice in your life.

To me the notion of an eigth hour work day is an anachronism. What should happen is less hours for more people, say five for one person and three for another. That would put more to work, shifting our economy to a part time work economy. Less hours, more getting payed, control inflation, and you have a pretty good society, to say nothing that it is more healthy - e.g., we don't sleep enough, but we would with a couple of more hours a day that is ours.

I know you use a neutral net, but do you know then effect of each node in an economically intuitive way?
I use a NN? That is news to me.

A separate topic. Do you calculate Sharpe and percentage up days? I have been working on the mathematical relationship between them. What does it mean when they disagree? Non-normality or dataming?
No, I don't. There are so many reasons why similar things would diverge on the same data. Some are artifacts of the computation itself, and some although far more rarely, the data is telling you something.
 
I have a [strong] feeling Calibrated FV converges today. Therefore, I sold ES at 1188.50 to hedge the position. I will work to get out completely near the open.

Overall, I made good money battling the recent irrationality and holding steadfast by FV, but I think I aged prematurely.
 
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