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Quote from shortie:

my take-home lesson from Nitro: edge+discipline=$$

it is hard to hang in to the intraday trade after yesterday and today's half-time.

DISCIPLINE
shortie,

You are being very hard on yourself. Unless you have been hardened in battle, most of us go through this. The one thing that will help immensely is, always trade waaaay below what you can afford to lose. So if 1 ES contract is too much, trade 100 SPY, or even odd-lot SPY. The key is to gain confidence and a reasonable trading account, so that one day when you have a real account, all your ducks will be in a row, the most important of which is your mindset.

Three causes of misery:

1. Man against nature
2. Man against man
3. Man against himself.

#3 MUST be eliminated in _ANY_ endeavor.
 
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Quote from nitro:

... The one thing that will help immensely is, always trade waaaay below what you can afford to lose. So if 1 ES contract is too much, trade 100 SPY, or even odd-lot SPY. The key is to gain confidence and a reasonable trading account, so that one day when you have a real account, all your ducks will be in a row, the most important of which is your mindset.

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Someone pointed out to me that this can be detrimental in that you will acclamate yourself to too low a size to the point where you won't pay attention. To make it explicit, it has to hurt if you lose, but it cannot hurt so much that it can ruin you. Walking that fine line is where the smart warrior is trained.
 
If you think this is easy, I knew a guy that had taken "discipline" to an extreme. He had done his analysis on daily data. He would go into the SP500 pit at 8:30 in the morning knowing exactly what he was going to do. If the opportunity arose, he would put on a position that he was comfortable with, would go upstairs to the office, and literally go to sleep on the couch until 2:00 CT, where he would then decide what he wanted to do based on the action he had seen (on a chart obviously). He didn't just put his "hands" out of commission, he went unconscious, LMAO!!

Any other way for him he would start to convince himself of this an that, and next thing he knew he was on tilt trying to guess what to do intraday away from his system.
 
Someone proposed if I thought that keeping track of MFA and MAE, Maximum Favorable Excursion and Maximum Adverse Excursion respectively, would be useful to NFV.

The answer in this case imo is no. This touches on the philosophical aspects of any model. Take NFV for example, it outputs a number. What does that number give? Well, it gives price, but I am asking, translated in scientific terms, what does it give? It gives position.

If you believe that markets have their own "Quantum Mechanics", then if you believe that NFV gives a very accurate value for the position of the market, then by the market analogy of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, we must be uncertain about the momentum of the very same market as seen by this model. This basically mean that we would have very little knowledge of the volatility around the equilibrium point. So we trade SPX, not VIX. If you think about it, it is another reason that you cannot trade an equilibrium model with just one trade. It is more of a campaign against not just price reverting to a "mean", but the momentum that takes it away from that equilibrium as well. Betting "chains" of some sort are a necessity in this case.

So you see, to an equilibrium model, it is somewhat useless to worry about what we are blind to, MAE and MFE - instead we deal with this complexity with add/remove chains. Alternatively, we can only hedge it, at best, or if I had a model for VIX, I could conceivably trade the interrelationship between where NFV is telling me SPX "should be" in VIX terms, and then make a play that way against VIX. It should be obvious now imo as to why chains (the add/remove distance from each other) are a function of VIX, BTW.
 
NFV 1093.39. ANFV 1144.82. SPX 1165.88.

Out daytrade at 1165.88. Market rallied a little into the close. Too bad. Still, plus on the daytrade, ~ +3.50. Big ANFV edge too, that may play itself out in the overnight session...

Nothing to do in the NFV area since NFV went down too, never converging to 60 edge so as to at least take profits on those units. We'll see how this pans out over the next few days.
 
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SPX	1165.88	NFV Unrealized Gain/Loss	 (41.60)
					 					
					
-  Date  -	Open	Trade	Close	Gain/Loss	
10/13/10	1175.8	Short	1178.11	(2.31)	
10/14/10	1170.7	Long	1173.84	3.14 	
10/15/10	1181.04	Short	1167.78	13.26 	
10/15/10	1175.55	Short	1176.2	(0.65)	
10/18/10	1176.19	Short	1184.81	(8.62)	
10/19/10	1169.5	Short	1165.88	3.62 	
					
	ANFV Daytrades Total		8.44
 
Quote from nitro:

NFV 1095.57. ANFV 1151.14. SPX 1168.19.

ANFV edge > 7. Short ANFV daytrade at 1168.19

new daytrade is 10 handle loser already...... Is there a stop?
 
NFV 1100.37. ANFV 1158.88. SPX 1182.39.

Update. Nothing [for me] to do. This is a new data point. 82 divergence between NFV and SPX. Wow. New data point for ANFV also, 24 divergence.

From any point of view I understand, even dollar weakness and QE2, this market is beyond comprehension to me. There may be some repatriation of dollars that is not known and is invisible to my model, but may soon be "news." Otherwise, unched or down is the only thing that makes sense. Trading higher on the same news over and over again is the sign of a self-interacting, non-linear system, but geesys, how many times on the same news?
 
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