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Quote from noddyboy:

How do you get upside and downside risk from a single number like VIX? Don't you need to know the skew?
Sort of, you can also just use the VIX level and historical frequencies at those levels. VIX is high for a reason, and should be respected right?
 
I never understood adding when you're wrong, unless it's in a delimited product (yield-curve, cracks, etc). My guess is that 99% of traders on this board who average are paper-trading.

Nitro, does your long ES position exist in this dimension?
 
Quote from nitro:

Sort of, you can also just use the VIX level and historical frequencies at those levels. VIX is high for a reason, and should be respected right?

VIX is shit representation of implied vol. Why use an artifice... why not use ATM vols or stat vol?
 
Quote from atticus:

What's your average on your ES long?
I don't have an average. I am long ES only in the morning because I can't use options then. It was sold and I got into the the 55 delta SPY option at the time.

Perhaps you mean my position. In SPX terms using 55 delta options each time, I am long at 1172 ish, 1192 ish, and 1201 ish. Then I also added at 1185 ish (the long ES) and various VIX put strikes, the initial one being the 32.5 strike when SPX was at 1172.
 
Quote from nitro:

...Multi-dimensional derivatives....
This is what the human trader brain is trying to do, explained in mathematical terms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hessian_matrix

In fact, it is probably at least a 32 dimensional Hessian Tensor (Vector-valued functions sections - I am guessing this number because my model is about 15 dimensional and doesn't come close to capturing all the dynamics). No wonder people want to stay at the High Frequency, where this Tensor is probably only 3 dimensional (still hard.) The longer your time frame, the Tensor dimension probably increases exponentially.

I have said this so many times on this thread that I am repeating myself.
 
Quote from atticus:

I wouldn't use tensors to model human frailty.
You are misunderstanding or I am not being clear. You can come up with whatever function you like to model human frailty. Call that f(x), where x is vector valued. What goes in the Hessian is the partial derivatives of this function with respect to every other dimension in the matrix.

Variance/Covariance matrices do similar things...
 
Quote from nitro:

This is what the human trader brain is trying to do, explained in mathematical terms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hessian_matrix

In fact, it is probably at least a 32 dimensional Hessian Tensor (Vector-valued functions sections - I am guessing this number because my model is about 15 dimensional and doesn't come close to capturing all the dynamics). No wonder people want to stay at the High Frequency, where this Tensor is probably only 3 dimensional (still hard.) The longer your time frame, the Tensor dimension probably increases exponentially.

I have said this so many times on this thread that I am repeating myself.

paging NLTRO...........:p
 
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