Krugman on Health Reform Myths

Clearly the entire system will become stratified. An upper-tier of care will emerge (it already exists on a smallish scale) that does not accept any insurance, only cash (or check/money order lol). This upper tier of medical care will have the best doctors, nurses, equipment and hospitals.

Most of us will simply dial our obamacare policies down to the minimum and just pay cash to get the best care outside of the socialized system. My current doctor (since 1992) does not accept insurance. That is actually pretty common around NY and Washington.

Alot of the pols that voted for Obamacare use private doctors in the Bethesda/Chevy Chase area. Its a fact. They don't wait in line for care, that is reserved for the American people.
 
Health Care Bill myths:
1. There is an actual bill...errr, no there isn't.
2. The now you see it, now you don't bill actually is about health care reform...it's about government intrusion in to every aspect of your life.
3. The government actually cares about you...nigga' please.
 
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You are completely incapable of rational thought. But the Q.E.D. is, you are a complete and bumbling idiot. The more you say, the more pitiful it is. You are incapable of grasping even basic debate and conversation.

But at least, you have little remorse about shaming and embarrassing yourself in public...
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Again, where is this debate and conversation? I asked you once for the facts but instead you call me an idiot and say nothing else.Where are these facts, why don't you post these facts and we can debate them.

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Yes; since you do not grasp logic, then one cannot make arguments that would stick. Unfortunately, educated people would disagree with you.
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More Ad Hominem, I can see why so many have you on ignore and dont respond to any of your bullshit.

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You mean, THIS? I didn't respond because you still are incapable of making sense. Further, I was not talking to you and you did not grasp the items that led to this post. I don't feel "upset" towards you, but "pity." I am ready to give you a box of Crayolas, as it might at least make your words have a little impact. You confuse "refute" with "string some words together and get partial credit for spelling correctly":

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I am getting tired of wiping your drool off the screen. But of course, once an idiot gets going, it is hard to make it stop... [/B]
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So why dont you punch holes in my logic and score some points with the educated classes?

It was a mistake trying to have a conversation with you, I think its better to put you on ignore like the vast majority of ET has done. :D
 
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It was a mistake trying to have a conversation with you, I think its better to put you on ignore like the vast majority of ET has done. :D

We didn't have a conversation. I boiled down the most sentient portions of your conversations and got something like this: blah blah blah snore Duh Duh Duh! bark bark bark...

So why dont you punch holes in my logic and score some points with the educated classes?

I did a few times, and of course, you did not grasp any of it. But I will save you the overwhelming effort it will take you to figure out how to use ignore. You are a true mental midget among men/women...

I leave the floor to you and your "brain"
 
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It was a mistake trying to have a conversation with you, I think its better to put you on ignore like the vast majority of ET has done. :D

We didn't have a conversation. I boiled down the most sentient portions of your conversations and got something like this: blah blah blah snore Duh Duh Duh! bark bark bark...

So why dont you punch holes in my logic and score some points with the educated classes?

I did a few times, and of course, you did not grasp any of it. But I will save you the overwhelming effort it will take you to figure out how to use ignore. You are a true mental midget among men/women...

I leave the floor to you and your "brain"
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You never made ONE point against anything other than calling me names, you never listed ONE fact against Krugman's article, you never replied to my post on the Religion thread.

You are one lying sack of shit. You are a perfect example of primates breeding and then buying their offspring a computer so they can troll messageboards spouting horseshit.
 
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You repeat the insurance companies' talking points with robotic precision. Impressive.
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Health Care insurers make about 3% annual profit. That is a small drop in the health care industry bucket.

A much smaller percentage than litigation and defensive medicine. If all of the health insurance profits went to free health care, it would pick up the tab for a couple of weeks.
 
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Health Care insurers make about 3% annual profit. That is a small drop in the health care industry bucket.

A much smaller percentage than litigation and defensive medicine. If all of the health insurance profits went to free health care, it would pick up the tab for a couple of weeks.
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Then why aren't shareholders looking for a better investment in which to park their capital? Why aren't health insurers branching out into more profitable lines of business? Have they made any attempts to do so? If health care is such a dog, why don't the industry participants just let government have at it over time while they seek more profitable activities, rather than spending 9 figures on lobbying efforts to protect an ostensibly borderline enterprise by your implication?

Remember The Hound of the Baskervilles?
 
Krugman was 100% wrong on housing and the economy in the early 2000s. Why he has a shred of credibility with anyone now is beyond me. The fact that he received a Nobel Prize just goes to show how worthless that award is these days...at least in some fields.
 
Bizarro Health Reform Arguments

As health reform moves to its final, make or break vote — I think it’s going to go through, but I’ll be hanging on by my fingernails all week — Republicans are still denouncing it as a vast, evil government takeover. But they have a problem: Obamacare is very much like the Massachusetts health reform, which was not only implemented by a Republican governor, but by a governor who is a serious contender for the 2012 presidential nomination.

So they insist that the two plans have nothing in common - http://thinkprogress.org/2010/03/14/graham-romneycare/ - but the only real difference they can point to is that Massachusetts didn’t fund its plan in part out of Medicare savings.

Of course, it couldn’t. But think about this a bit more: Republicans are saying that what makes Obamacare a socialist takeover, whereas Romneycare wasn’t, is the fact that unlike Romney’s plan, Obama’s plan cuts government spending.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/14/bizarro-health-reform-arguments/
 
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