Krugman on Health Reform Myths

Quote from Index piker:

Well if you think that is the only alternative to nationalized health care, yes.

Hopefully before Obama care passes you or a love one are fucked by an insurance company and denied life saving treatment,but one can only hope
 
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Obama care...Coming soon to a city near you :D
I suspect I'll still be able to afford a real doctor and real treatment choices for myself, others not so much.

As a heath care professional over the past five years I have earned 2-3x the national average.

I can tell you this, if that changes much I won't be putting in the time anywhere like I once did.

I suspect I won't be alone in this , so good luck with that obama care stuff.
 
Of course Medicares premiums haven't risen particularly fast. That's why Medicare is $35 trillion under funded.


Quote from Eliot Hosewater:

A Democrat Congressman from Florida just introduced a Public Option. Funny, it's not getting much air play on either side.

http://market-ticker.org/archives/2075-Alan-Grayson-Tossed-Out-A-Hardball.html

Posted by Karl Denninger in Health Reform at 14:20
Alan Grayson Tossed Out A Hardball

Now we're talking:

Congressman Alan Grayson, D-Fla., today introduced a bill (H.R. 4789) which would give the option to buy into Medicare to every citizen of the United States. The “Public Option Act,” also known as the “Medicare You Can Buy Into Act,” would open up the Medicare network to anyone who can pay for it.

http://grayson.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=175363#main

Ding ding ding ding.

If you're going to mandate that everyone have health insurance, then you have to provide a public option.

That is the only way you're going to keep people from being raped.

I still don't think this is Constitutional, by the way, but this much is clear: Medicare's premiums haven't been going up at 20, 30 or 40% a year.

Depending on the premium, I'm interested, and would likely dump my private insurance (which I have to pay for in cash) immediately were this to become law.

If we can't have the sort of four-point plan I've put forward in the past, this is the next best option.
 
I've seen two polls and in each about 1/4 of practitioners say they'll quit altogether and another quarter will work significantly less. Funny how Krugman doesn't address that "myth."

Or, why doesn't he address the myth that insurance premiums will fall under PelosiCare? As uber-leftist, Illinois senator Dick Durbin said last week, “anyone who would stand before you and say well, if you pass health care reform, next year’s health care premiums are going down, I don’t think is telling the truth. I think it is likely they would go up, but what we are trying to do is slow the rate of increase.”

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Quote from Index piker:

I suspect I'll still be able to afford a real doctor and real treatment choices for myself, others not so much.

As a heath care professional over the past five years I have earned 2-3x the national average.

I can tell you this, if that changes much I won't be putting in the time anywhere like I once did.

I suspect I won't be alone in this , so good luck with that obama care stuff.
 
Quote from TGregg:

Nancy Pelosi:

" . . .we have to pass the health care bill so that you can find out what is in it . . ."

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"Let's all share your money and give me some too..."
 
Quote from hermit:

So when I ask you to mention the facts, you call me names. What a mature and reasonable response. This is exactly what we need, when someone calls out for a debate, simply insult the person and vilify the guy asking for a response.

Kudos to You Sir.

"when someone calls out for a debate" ---> This is a reasonable, responsible plan. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

I answered and you remained stupid. Everything you said in this thread was stupid. I made the mistake of being nice the first time or two, but you shine out as stupid.

You are an idiot. You are devoid of brains. You do not understand anything.

If you want more explanation of this, then I will make it simpler

U, IDIOT
 
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Most because they don't have insurance and repeatedly have to go to the ER,and those 2,000 ER bills get passed on to everybody else

85% of the public is insured. Yet many many people do not listen to their bodies and ignore symptoms. So they end up at the emergency with full blown heart attacks, or show up at a doctors office with stage 4 cancers.

Heath care will not solve this issue. What health care will do is drive up costs unless it can force people to annual exams.

How is health care going to help a homeless alcoholic?
 
Healthcare is the way to bailout out the healthcare industry. Just as banks and decrepit car companies were bailed out. End of Story.

Even resident short Jim Chanos has figured out as much, and is stepping aside from shorting the sector for the time being.

As for why healthcare needs a bailout- have you seen the lack of drugs developed in the past 10 yrs?

They haven't done anything to increase the supply of doctors other than to create a new series of experts that can hide behind diagnostic machines, while disease corrodes most sick patients just the same as it did 10 yrs before. Fat overweight people continue to get the latest and greatest knee and hip replacements while the underlying causes go unmentioned.

A country where healthcare is 19% of GDP cannot function for long. Maybe thats where GDP growth is coming from, no?
 
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