Korean war II, new permawar?

Quote from CaptainObvious:

North Korea would over run Seoul in a matter of hours. If we think we can fight them in the same silly ass way we're fighting in Iraq and Afganistan, we're in for a rude awakening. These people aren't just a bunch of crazed ragheads running around with an RPG or two. We've lost just over 3000 in Afganistan in ten years. We'll lose twice that in the first 24 hours if NK invades SK.

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If The NK troops don't quit like the Iraq troops did I agree.I question how long they can fight since they don't have much food to feed the troops or oil to keep their equipment going .I worry that if they know there regime will be kicked out they will use a nuke on SK
 
Quote from pspr:

I think S.K. and the U.S. would have them all slaughtered or surrendered in a matter of hours if not days.

NK has over a million troops,we have 30,000 troops over there.How are we going to slaughter a million + troops in a couple of days ?
 
Quote from pspr:

I disagree. N.K. hasn't fought a war since the early 1950's. I doubt that they have any idea how to outmaneuver anyone. I think S.K. and the U.S. would have them all slaughtered or surrendered in a matter of hours if not days. N.K. knows this so the only thing they can do is bluff. Only a mistaken attack or a shelling by someone trying to move up in the ranks would start a conflict.

They watch Iran and Israel and take their cues from how weak they see America. Bluff away. Obama won't do a thing without thinking about it for a month or two.

Besides, China won't have time to mobilize troops to come to their aid. It would be over before it starts.


It will only be just the beginning, the US does not want to fight NK and China again.
 
Quote from budcampbell:

It will only be just the beginning, don't kid yourself.
And hows that? Obama will attack mainland China at the same time? :D
 
My cousin, who's in the Air Force, says the following about North Korea's Military:


1. The N.K. army is large (over 1 million), but most of the troops are very poorly trained, poorly fed and poorly led. Their elite forces number about 50,000 and they would do most of the real fighting. Most of the army would be used as human sacrifices/shields.

2. The N.K. Air Force is large (over 800 planes), but the aircraft are old, poorly maintained and pilots rarely fly because N.K. can't afford the fuel.

3. One real danger is in the hunreds of artillery pieces manned by elite North Korean forces. Many of these big guns are within range of Seoul and could hammer the city within a matter of minutes. Worse, many of these big guns are mobile and the North Koreans have gotten very good at moving them around and hiding them.

4. The other thing we don't know is if they have a nuclear weapon that they could actually deliver onto a target.

If North Korea attacked the South, it would be a real mess. The South Koreans could not defend by themselves. Until we're willing to risk handing South Korea over to North Korea, we'll be staying there.
 
Quote from KINGOFSHORTS:

Anyone who thinks this will be a weekend war, walk in the park for our military is making a big error in judgement.
I don't think N.K. is that stupid. But here is an interesting, though brief, analysis.

It is important to note that China did not exercise its veto power when the sanctions against North Korea passed through the Security Council. This is a telling reminder of Beijing’s troubled relationship with Pyongyang, as China appears to be growing impatient with its ally.

Furthermore, North Korea threatened to end the 1953 armistice on Wednesday in anticipation of the pending Security Council resolution. If the North made true on its threat, it would mean that the Demilitarized Zone that separates North and South Korea could be crossed and South Korean and US forces would be pulled into a war on the peninsula. However, this scenario is highly unlikely.

Although North Korea is capable of significant levels of destruction in South Korea and possibly even Japan, US and South Korean retaliation would be devastating and would almost certainly end the regime. Also, the North’s biggest ally, China, has no desire for a war to break out in its backyard. The regional devastation that a war would bring, the strain on China’s heavy economic investment in North Korea, open conflict with the United States, as well as the likely influx of refugees into Chinese territory would cause serious problems for Beijing.

If, however, in the unlikely event that North Korea did attack the South, to avoid widespread destruction and to prevent a major war with the United States, it would be in China’s best interest to invade and take control of North Korea and hand over administration of the country to the United Nations.

Open conflict on the Korean Peninsula remains unlikely, and instead North Korea through threatening the United States may be trying to get Washington’s attention so that new dialogue and a possible restructuring of the entire relationship with Pyongyang can take place.


http://globalconflictanalysis.com/2013/03/new-sanctions-for-north-korea-in-response-to-nuclear-test/
 
Quote from pspr:

I don't think N.K. is that stupid. But here is an interesting, though brief, analysis.

It is important to note that China did not exercise its veto power when the sanctions against North Korea passed through the Security Council. This is a telling reminder of Beijing’s troubled relationship with Pyongyang, as China appears to be growing impatient with its ally.

Furthermore, North Korea threatened to end the 1953 armistice on Wednesday in anticipation of the pending Security Council resolution. If the North made true on its threat, it would mean that the Demilitarized Zone that separates North and South Korea could be crossed and South Korean and US forces would be pulled into a war on the peninsula. However, this scenario is highly unlikely.

Although North Korea is capable of significant levels of destruction in South Korea and possibly even Japan, US and South Korean retaliation would be devastating and would almost certainly end the regime. Also, the North’s biggest ally, China, has no desire for a war to break out in its backyard. The regional devastation that a war would bring, the strain on China’s heavy economic investment in North Korea, open conflict with the United States, as well as the likely influx of refugees into Chinese territory would cause serious problems for Beijing.

If, however, in the unlikely event that North Korea did attack the South, to avoid widespread destruction and to prevent a major war with the United States, it would be in China’s best interest to invade and take control of North Korea and hand over administration of the country to the United Nations.

Open conflict on the Korean Peninsula remains unlikely, and instead North Korea through threatening the United States may be trying to get Washington’s attention so that new dialogue and a possible restructuring of the entire relationship with Pyongyang can take place.


http://globalconflictanalysis.com/2013/03/new-sanctions-for-north-korea-in-response-to-nuclear-test/

I read that Obama has told China if they don't help keep NK in line he will let SK and Japan build nukes .China does not want to be surrounded by a nuclear SK and Japan
 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

I read that Obama has told China if they don't help keep NK in line he will let SK and Japan build nukes .China does not want to be surrounded by a nuclear SK and Japan
Japan has vowed to never build a nuclear weapon. But if we cut back our military around that part of the world, they may change their mind. I'm not sure how much influence we have with them anymore.
 
Quote from pspr:

Japan has vowed to never build a nuclear weapon.

That was before NK started threatening them with nukes.Japan and SK both have new leaders now who wants to build nukes because of NK
 
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