Koch funded climate skeptic declares global warming is real

much of the findings from the grace studies are now very dicey and probably wrong.
I just pointed that out a few posts ago.

you need to update your science.


No the Grace studies are as accurate as science gets you lying douchebag.
 
the problem with the Grace satellites as they are applied to the antarctic is that GRACE measures gravity not ice so the studies have big error bars.



West Antarctic ice sheet may not be losing ice as fast as once thought – GRACE readings overestimated

From University of Texas, Austin via Eurekalert

New ground measurements made by the West Antarctic GPS Network (WAGN) project, composed of researchers from The University of Texas at Austin, The Ohio State University, and The University of Memphis, suggest the rate of ice loss of the West Antarctic ice sheet has been slightly overestimated.


http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/...as-once-thought-grace-readings-overestimated/


Antarctica was once buried under a deeper and more extensive layer of ice during a period known as the Last Glacial Maximum. Starting about 20,000 years ago, the ice began slowly thinning and retreating. As the ice mass decreases, the bedrock immediately below the ice rises, an uplift known as postglacial rebound.

Postglacial rebound causes an increase in the gravitational attraction measured by the GRACE satellites and could explain their inferred measurements of recent, rapid ice loss in West Antarctica. The new GPS measurements show West Antarctica is rebounding more slowly than once thought. This means that the correction to the gravity signal from the rock contribution has been overestimated and the rate of ice loss is slower than previously interpreted.


WAGN GPS deployed

“The published results are very important because they provide precise, ground-truth GPS observations of the actual rebound of the continent due to the loss of ice mass detected by the GRACE satellite gravity measurements over West Antarctica” said Vladimir Papitashvili, acting director for the Antarctic Earth Sciences Program at the National Science Foundation, which supported the research.

WAGN researchers do not yet know how large the overestimation was. A more definitive correction will be conducted by other researchers who specialize in interpreting GRACE data. Previous estimates of postglacial rebound were made with theoretical models. Assimilation of the direct GPS results into new models will therefore produce significant improvements in estimations of ice mass loss.

The results will appear in “Geodetic Measurements of Vertical Crustal Velocity in West Antarctica and the Implications for Ice Mass Balance” (M. Bevis et al., 2009), published in the electronic journal Geochemistry, Geophysics, Geosystems of the American Geophysical Union and the American Geochemical Society. [View the paper at: http://www.agu.org/journals/gc/gc0910/2009GC002642/ ]
 
the problem with the Grace satellites as they are applied to the antarctic is that GRACE measures gravity not ice so the studies have big error bars.



West Antarctic ice sheet may not be losing ice as fast as once thought – GRACE readings overestimated

From University of Texas, Austin via Eurekalert

New ground measurements made by the West Antarctic GPS Network (WAGN) project, composed of researchers from The University of Texas at Austin, The Ohio State University, and The University of Memphis, suggest the rate of ice loss of the West Antarctic ice sheet has been slightly overestimated.


http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/...as-once-thought-grace-readings-overestimated/


Antarctica was once buried under a deeper and more extensive layer of ice during a period known as the Last Glacial Maximum. Starting about 20,000 years ago, the ice began slowly thinning and retreating. As the ice mass decreases, the bedrock immediately below the ice rises, an uplift known as postglacial rebound.

Postglacial rebound causes an increase in the gravitational attraction measured by the GRACE satellites and could explain their inferred measurements of recent, rapid ice loss in West Antarctica. The new GPS measurements show West Antarctica is rebounding more slowly than once thought. This means that the correction to the gravity signal from the rock contribution has been overestimated and the rate of ice loss is slower than previously interpreted.


WAGN GPS deployed

“The published results are very important because they provide precise, ground-truth GPS observations of the actual rebound of the continent due to the loss of ice mass detected by the GRACE satellite gravity measurements over West Antarctica” said Vladimir Papitashvili, acting director for the Antarctic Earth Sciences Program at the National Science Foundation, which supported the research.

WAGN researchers do not yet know how large the overestimation was. A more definitive correction will be conducted by other researchers who specialize in interpreting GRACE data. Previous estimates of postglacial rebound were made with theoretical models. Assimilation of the direct GPS results into new models will therefore produce significant improvements in estimations of ice mass loss.

The results will appear in “Geodetic Measurements of Vertical Crustal Velocity in West Antarctica and the Implications for Ice Mass Balance” (M. Bevis et al., 2009), published in the electronic journal Geochemistry, Geophysics, Geosystems of the American Geophysical Union and the American Geochemical Society. [View the paper at: http://www.agu.org/journals/gc/gc0910/2009GC002642/ ]



Total bullshit. The BEST way to measure the ice mass is by gravity.

Bottom line.....ICE EVERYWHERE ON EARTH IS MELTING........DOUCHEBAG.
 
Hahahah!

1.6 degrees in 64 years. That's a whopping 0.025 degree increase per year. 25 thousandths of a degree per year!!! That sure sounds like global warming to me! LOL

In historical ice records, there have been times when the CO2 level was 20 TIMES what it is now... and man wasn't a factor.

The DemoNazis are just looking for yet another way to take more money and exercise greater control over our lives...
 
In historical ice records, there have been times when the CO2 level was 20 TIMES what it is now... and man wasn't a factor.

The DemoNazis are just looking for yet another way to take more money and exercise greater control over our lives...




Do you know how to read a chart?

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In historical ice records, there have been times when the CO2 level was 20 TIMES what it is now... and man wasn't a factor.

The DemoNazis are just looking for yet another way to take more money and exercise greater control over our lives...



Climate change deniers are as committed. Their denial fits perfectly with their support for free market economics, opposition to state intervention and hatred of all those latte-slurping, quinoa-munching liberals, with their arrogant manners and dainty hybrid cars, who presume to tell honest men and women how to live. If they admitted they were wrong on climate change, they might have to admit that they were wrong on everything else and their whole political identity would unravel.


http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...global-warming
 
Climate change deniers are as committed. Their denial fits perfectly with their support for free market economics, opposition to state intervention and hatred of all those latte-slurping, quinoa-munching liberals, with their arrogant manners and dainty hybrid cars, who presume to tell honest men and women how to live. If they admitted they were wrong on climate change, they might have to admit that they were wrong on everything else and their whole political identity would unravel.


http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...global-warming

That's coffee spewing funny. It's libtards who can't admit they are wrong or their whole homo erotic, treasury borrowing, fed printing, no crime among blacks agenda made for idiots would go up in a ball of flames.
 
That's coffee spewing funny. It's libtards who can't admit they are wrong or their whole homo erotic, treasury borrowing, fed printing, no crime among blacks agenda made for idiots would go up in a ball of flames.

Except they're not. Man made global warming is a fact as sure as cigarettes cause health problems. Idiot.
 
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