I'm not really sure there would be any advantage trading es in a tax sheltered account vs SPY since the 60/40 rule is meaninglessI know that T.D. Ameritrade doesn't and I wonder if any do if it's mainly because the variable margining of futures options is inherently in conflict with IRA rules?
Please let me know if you know of a counter-example ...
I totally agree with this. Successfully trading futures in a completely tax-free Roth IRA is good for both the soul and the wallet.I'm 55 years old and have enough funds in my Roth to play. So for me, this is much better than trading in a personal account. Futures are more pure than their ETFs so I like them better. I can also sell futures to open but can't sell short in an IRA.
I know that T.D. Ameritrade doesn't and I wonder if any do if it's mainly because the variable margining of futures options is inherently in conflict with IRA rules?
Please let me know if you know of a counter-example ...
What are you talking about? You pay no taxes on profits trading a Roth IRA.ok, whatever, If you like futures then that is another thing, but I would not blow my 60/40 split on an IRA.
they only give you so many breaks, you already get 60/40 on futures, if you want to trade spy then the only way to protect is an IRA or something similar. Most of us given a choice would stay with SPY on the long side since if you get caught long term that is better than rolling out, but futures give you a 60/40 split.What are you talking about? You pay no taxes on profits trading a Roth IRA.