Knockout "Game" Not New, Media Cover Up Not Either

Quote from jem:

good point... I should have been aware I was thinking like a prisoner.

No, not a worry. Your initial thoughts are what we've been told to think for the last 40yrs+ I'm an NRA Firearms Instructor, and once a month now, hold a weekend class here in FL which "the people" sadly have to do in order to get a ccw. The Framers of the Constitution did NOT want horse shit like a forced class, fees, etc., so THE PEOPLE could protect themselves with a concealed firearm. Our government has been broken for the last 90yrs, and needs to be re-set.
 
Quote from LEAPup:

The Framers of the Constitution did NOT want horse shit like a forced class, fees, etc., so THE PEOPLE could protect themselves with a concealed firearm. Our government has been broken for the last 90yrs, and needs to be re-set.

It looks like that view is conjecture. We don't know what the writers of the constitution would say about gun permits in today's society. And I would take a guess they would be for arms control in regards to weapons of mass destruction and the constitution does say arms not personal guns. To me it seems it is all a matter of degree and by far most Americans and our elected officials are for the right to personal protection. Almost everyone is for restricting gun access to convicted felons even though they have done their time. Is that constitutional in the strictest sense?
In this issue like most an all or nothing attitude doesn't seem to work.
 
Quote from bigarrow:

It looks like that view is conjecture. We don't know what the writers of the constitution would say about gun permits in today's society....

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson

"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson

"To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason

"I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."
- George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe."
- Noah Webster

"The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster

Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."
- James Madison

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison

"The ultimate authority resides in the people alone."
- James Madison

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
- Richard Henry Lee

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and include all men capable of bearing arms."
- Richard Henry Lee

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry
 
Quote from Lucrum:

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson

"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson

"To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason

"I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."
- George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe."
- Noah Webster

"The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster

Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."
- James Madison

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison

"The ultimate authority resides in the people alone."
- James Madison

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
- Richard Henry Lee

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and include all men capable of bearing arms."
- Richard Henry Lee

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry

Bigarrow, what do you think now after reading this? Please feel free to take your time, but opine on each quote posted. This should be interesting.
 
We do not know what the framers would think about gun permits or background checks today. Hell if you lived three hundred years from now you wouldn't know all the thoughts even yourself would have. Of course it's completely conjecture on my thinking that the founders would be against individuals owning nuclear weapons just like it would be conjecture to think they would be for individuals owning nuclear weapons. It's a silly argument anyway. Like I've said before for most reasonable Americans it's a discussion of degree.
 
Quote from bigarrow:

We do not know what the framers would think about gun permits or background checks today....
Obviously you either did not read the quotes I provided. Or you're incapable in comprehending them.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Obviously you either did not read the quotes I provided. Or you're incapable in comprehending them.

I asked him to decipher the quotes, but that's going to be a tough one for someone who thinks anti freedom, and no common sense.
 
Quote from gwb-trading:

FINALLY - a hate crime arrest in the "Knockout Game"...

Oh wait... it only applies if the victim is specifically Jewish... not if they are white... never mind.

1 arrested after possible 'knockout' assault
http://www.wral.com/1-charged-with-hate-crime-after-man-24-punched/13148197/

Perhaps the victims need to arm themselves and play the "Zimmerman Game".

Yes, very sad to see legalized racism in America. Blacks can run around attacking white people, and it's a simple misdemeanor battery. If whites do that, it's a federal offense; a felony.:mad: Hello majority? Anyone home?:(
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Obviously you either did not read the quotes I provided. Or you're incapable in comprehending them.

They were simple ideas in the quotes. I understood completely. It is you who fails to read what I wrote without bias. What is your OPINION on what the founders would say about private ownership of nuclear weapons today ?
 
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