Knockout "Game" Not New, Media Cover Up Not Either

Quote from Lucrum:

Actually it does. It just doesn't seem that way to the ignorant and or ill informed. Because the thousands of current infringements have been come along gradually and for the most part have gone unchallenged by the citizenry.


Here, read it again - for the first time.


Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


in·fringe (n-frnj)
v. in·fringed, in·fring·ing, in·fring·es
v.tr.
1. To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate
To encroach on someone or something; engage in trespassing
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Actually it doesn't Lucrum. But it doesn't matter what our interpretation of the constitution is it's how the supreme rules that makes the finally rule on this.
In my view a background check doesn't infringe on the 2nd amendment, I can see the argument for permits maybe being an infringement, I don't think so but I can see and understand the argument on the other side.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson

"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson

"To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason

"I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."
- George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe."
- Noah Webster

"The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster

Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."
- James Madison

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison

"The ultimate authority resides in the people alone."
- James Madison

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
- Richard Henry Lee

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and include all men capable of bearing arms."
- Richard Henry Lee

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry
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Wheelbarrow, do you plan on deciphering each of these quotes as you were asked to do?
 
Quote from bigarrow:

Actually it doesn't Lucrum. But it doesn't matter what our interpretation of the constitution is it's how the supreme rules that makes the finally rule on this.
In my view a background check doesn't infringe on the 2nd amendment, I can see the argument for permits maybe being an infringement, I don't think so but I can see and understand the argument on the other side.
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LOL


If a permit is an infringement so is a background check.

In fact both ARE by definition infringements. The court declaring them constitutional doesn't make them any less of an infringement.

And don't forget, this is the same court that upheld the obviously unconstitutional Obamacare as well as slavery among other things over the years. The courts opinion and decisions might make something law of the land. It don't necessarily make it right or even truly "constitutional". IOW the courts decisions change over the years, the constitution does not. Surely even you can see that.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

LOL


If a permit is an infringement so is a background check.

In fact both ARE by definition infringements. The court declaring them constitutional doesn't make them any less of an infringement.

And don't forget, this is the same court that upheld the obviously unconstitutional Obamacare as well as slavery among other things over the years. The courts opinion and decisions might make something law of the land. It don't necessarily make it right or even truly "constitutional". IOW the courts decisions change over the years, the constitution does not. Surely even you can see that.
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This might provoke another one of Big Arrow's mini tantrums where he tells us that he has a very high IQ.
 
Quote from denner:

This might provoke another one of Big Arrow's mini tantrums where he tells us that he has a very high IQ.
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Yeah, and don't forget, he claims to be a ladies "man" as well as. If you remember buckwheat (aka rcgtrader), he liked to remind us often that he was a DAILY profitable trader, yet worked nights emptying bedpans. Wheel barrow wants stock traders to believe he's an absolute genius roofer living in his camper, banging all the hot babes. Ok...:D
liberal democrats = lunatic liars.
 
There is cause for great celebration today. Anti-gun wackjob Evie Hudak just resigned from her seat in the Colorado state Senate. Rather than face a crushing recall election after she told a rape victim that a gun would not have saved her, she’s calling it quits.

from Denver Post:

Democratic state Sen. Evie Hudak has resigned her seat to forestall a recall effort launched by constituents who sought to oust her from office for her support of gun-control laws passed by lawmakers last spring.

The senator made the announcement in a letter to Democratic leadership Wednesday. She did not attend a news conference scheduled for 10:30 a.m. at the Arvada Library, where some constituents offered words of support.

"By resigning I am protecting these important new laws for the good of Colorado and ensuring that we can continue looking forward," Hudak wrote in her resignation letter in regard to her gun votes.

Hudak’s move ends the recall process, as now a Democratic vacancy committee can appoint someone to fill her seat until 2014...
 
Quote from Lucrum:

There is cause for great celebration today. Anti-gun wackjob Evie Hudak just resigned from her seat in the Colorado state Senate. Rather than face a crushing recall election after she told a rape victim that a gun would not have saved her, she’s calling it quits.

from Denver Post:

Democratic state Sen. Evie Hudak has resigned her seat to forestall a recall effort launched by constituents who sought to oust her from office for her support of gun-control laws passed by lawmakers last spring.

The senator made the announcement in a letter to Democratic leadership Wednesday. She did not attend a news conference scheduled for 10:30 a.m. at the Arvada Library, where some constituents offered words of support.

"By resigning I am protecting these important new laws for the good of Colorado and ensuring that we can continue looking forward," Hudak wrote in her resignation letter in regard to her gun votes.

Hudak’s move ends the recall process, as now a Democratic vacancy committee can appoint someone to fill her seat until 2014...
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Thanks for the post. I've got Family in CO who will love to hear this.
 
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Thanks for the post. I've got Family in CO who will love to hear this.
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It's not good news. She resigned so they could appoint a democrat in her place who would keep the law as is until the next election. They can't recall an appointed democrat, they could have recalled her.
 
New York chef suffers broken jaw, nose in likely 'knockout game' attack in
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/new-york-chef-victim-knockout-game-article-1.1531959

Police are investigating a vicious attack on a Manhattan chef who was walking alone on Tuesday night when he was allegedly assaulted by a group of six to eight men, all between the ages of 16 and 21. ‘I'm not well, a lot of swelling and overall pain,’ said victim Diego Moya. ‘Should be four weeks until I lose the wires and can eat normally, which is devastating being a chef. Means I can't work.’
 
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