King Solomon (King Shlomo): If he was great and wealthy could you back it up?

The truth about King Solomon

  • He was just one other king, if he ever existed and lower than the kings of his time

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • He was made greater by writers

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • He was truly great, but I cannot back it up with historical monuments like in egypt, but he was grea

    Votes: 5 55.6%
  • No opinion, but I love TJ's threads

    Votes: 2 22.2%

  • Total voters
    9
Quote from Spiker:

St Luke.....Please allow me to remind you that this is the Politics & Religion & Amusement section . :) .

Please allow me to remind you that you are a shit for brains imbecile.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Please allow me to remind you that you are a shit for brains imbecile.








Furthermore......all these titles like kings and saints and knights and lords are a whole lot of horse manure also.... Luke . :) .
 
Quote from tradingjournals:

In the books of Kings, he is described as wise and wealthy, and as if he is the greasted king who ever lived. The pens of writers can produce a lot of bullcrap, but they cannot produce historical monuments (like the egyptian pyramids) that attest to the greatness of a civilization.

The pyramids are real because you can see them to this day. You can also see the pharaos tombs, their gold, their art, their civilisation/etc to this day. The works they left behind writes the history for them. The same for greeks, and others.

So how come they write about Solomon as a great king, and we do not see anything to match up the claims such as realizations one could see to this day? Sholomo lived after the great pharaoes, but we still see the works of the pharoes, but one cannot see the works of Shlomo (except in books).

Is King Solomon, just another small little Shlomo made bigger, with the succession of assholes who wrote about him ( and each added a little more achievements that may not have existed even in the mind of the authors who wrote them (but wanted people to believe in them) or was King Solomon a real King who is the greatest King ever lived?

Check the poll up there, and vote if you did not already.

Solomon's main credit was the construction of the 1st Temple which was sacked and destroyed under the reign of King Jehoiachin by King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. The account of the battle is recorded by both civilizations, in the Bible and the Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, ABC 5 - Nebuchadnezzar early years i.e. "Jerusalem Chronicle"

The remaining foundation stones of the 1st Temple serve as the base of the remains of the 2nd Temple which still exist.

Most mainstream archeologists and historians do not doubt the historical accuracy of King Solomon.
 
Quote from Wallet:
Solomon's main credit was the construction of the 1st Temple which was sacked and destroyed under the reign of King Jehoiachin by King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. The account of the battle is recorded by both civilizations, in the Bible and the Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles, ABC 5 - Nebuchadnezzar early years i.e. "Jerusalem Chronicle"
Could you show specifically anywhere in the Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles themselves , and not in biblical accounts contrived from them, where there is any mention of a King Solomon or his temple? Because ABC 5 you referenced does not.

Quote from Wallet:
The remaining foundation stones of the 1st Temple serve as the base of the remains of the 2nd Temple which still exist.
There is no historical or archeological evidence attributing any Temple base or remains to that of a King Solomon, other than by Biblical description.
There is nothing standing as historical or archaeological evidence for the existence of a King Solomon or a Solomon's Temple, outside of literary fiction in the bible.

Finding a foundation stone for a cottage in a forest near where it is believed that, according to the book , Goldilocks existed, does not mean Goldilocks existed .

Quote from Wallet:
Most mainstream archeologists and historians do not doubt the historical accuracy of King Solomon.
Most mainstream archeologists and historians do not support a historical accuracy of King Solomon because there simply isn't any.
 
Quote from stu:

Could you show specifically anywhere in the Assyrian and Babylonian Chronicles themselves , and not in biblical accounts contrived from them, where there is any mention of a King Solomon or his temple? Because ABC 5 you referenced does not.


There is no historical or archeological evidence attributing any Temple base or remains to that of a King Solomon, other than by Biblical description.
There is nothing standing as historical or archaeological evidence for the existence of a King Solomon or a Solomon's Temple, outside the bible.

Finding a foundation stone for a cottage in a forest near where it is believed that, according to the book , Goldilocks existed, does not mean Goldilocks existed .


Most mainstream archeologists and historians do not support a historical accuracy of King Solomon because there simply isn't any.

Isn't that famous ancient wall in Jerusalem the remains of a temple mentioned in the Bible?
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Isn't that famous ancient wall in Jerusalem the remains of a temple mentioned in the Bible?

Mentioned in the Bible? Say no more!
There is no evidence for it. Focused religious affixation for the area only started in the fourth century.
 
since you can never trust stu to give an accurate account of anything which challenges his anti God views... I figured a quick check of wikipedia could not hurt...

what do you know its is not as one sided a Stu would like to profess.



Historical evidence of King Solomon other than the biblical accounts is minimal. Josephus, citing Tyrian court records and Menander in Against Apion, gives a specific year during which Hiram I of Tyre sent materials to Solomon for the construction of the temple.[20] However, no material evidence indisputably of Solomon's reign has been found. Yigael Yadin's excavations at Hazor, Megiddo, Beit Shean and Gezer uncovered structures that he and others have argued date from his reign,[21] but others, such as Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman, argue that they should be dated to the Omride period, more than a century after Solomon.[22]
[edit]Archaeological evidence
In February 2010 archaeologist Eilat Mazar announced the excavation of what she believes is a 10th-century city wall and royal structure that she suggests corroborates the existence of a royal palace and fortified capital city under control of a Hebrew king in Jerusalem in the 10th-century BC. Not all archaeologists believe that there was a strong state at that time, and archaeologist Aren Maeir is dubious about Mazar's dating [23][24]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon#Historical_figure
 
Quote from stu:

There is no evidence for it.
So that wall is a figment of my imagination?
Focused religious affixation for the area only started in the fourth century.
So?
 
Quote from Lucrum:
So that wall is a figment of my imagination?
Are you trying to be purposely obscure as per usual or just having a laugh?

There is no historical or archeological evidence that the western wall was or is anything to do with a Solomon’s Temple. There is no such verifiable evidence either, that there was a King Solomon. That only happens when it becomes part of a tale in the Bible.

Quote from Lucrum:
So?
....so it has only in comparatively recent history been escalated to where the Solomon bible myth is supposed to become real merely by attaching an actual place to it , without any formal verifiable evidence.
Fantasy is a word for that. Political control through extreme religious assertion is another description and reason.

It’s like finding a stone wall in a particular place, in a particular forest, attaching endless stories and political inferences and power around the place, only because of its strategic position throughout history , and then falsely declaring it to be indisputably the Cottage where Goldilocks met the Three Bears. Just so as to turn it into a over sensitive highly controversial religious shrine as an excuse to feel special and fight over .

So… no, as the thread title suggests, it’s Solomon … Scholomon... he can’t be backed up.
 
Quote from stu:

Are you trying to be purposely obscure as per usual or just having a laugh?

There is no historical or archeological evidence that the western wall was or is anything to do with a Solomon’s Temple. There is no such verifiable evidence either, that there was a King Solomon. That only happens when it becomes part of a tale in the Bible.


....so it has only in comparatively recent history been escalated to where the Solomon bible myth is supposed to become real merely by attaching an actual place to it , without any formal verifiable evidence.
Fantasy is a word for that. Political control through extreme religious assertion is another description and reason.

It’s like finding a stone wall in a particular place, in a particular forest, attaching endless stories and political inferences and power around the place, only because of its strategic position throughout history , and then falsely declaring it to be indisputably the Cottage where Goldilocks met the Three Bears. Just so as to turn it into a over sensitive highly controversial religious shrine as an excuse to feel special and fight over .

So… no, as the thread title suggests, it’s Solomon … Scholomon... he can’t be backed up.

You really should watch a few episodes of The Naked Archaeologist.

When you say there is no historical or archeological evidence of any kind whatsoever you look a little...well...stuPID.
 
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