Clay, if that's true, it sucks and they tried to screw you.Quote from claywilk:
Touche'. "Lies" may have been a little stretch. He did , however, miscalculate what my college fund was going to be by $40,000. Accident? he also misrepresented several other components of my service. The re-enlistment NCO also tried to slip extension papers in a stack of forms "he needed" me to sign to transfer to So. Korea as if it was all formality. Don't think for a minute that these guys aren't salesmen. They are trained to "convince" young men to join. Enough so that a young man should have legal representation at enlistment.
Quote from hapaboy:
Clay, if that's true, it sucks and they tried to screw you.
I and all my Army buddies did not have that happen to us. I maxed out my College Fund with my recruiter's help, and there was never an instance of trying to get me to extend my contract illegally.
I can see how it would piss you off to no end, though. I'd probably feel the same if I were in your shoes.
Despite your bad experience and point of view that is obviously contrary to mine vis a vis the war in Iraq, thanks for serving.
Quote from hapaboy:
Clay, if that's true, it sucks and they tried to screw you.
I and all my Army buddies did not have that happen to us. I maxed out my College Fund with my recruiter's help, and there was never an instance of trying to get me to extend my contract illegally.
I can see how it would piss you off to no end, though. I'd probably feel the same if I were in your shoes.
Despite your bad experience and point of view that is obviously contrary to mine vis a vis the war in Iraq, thanks for serving.
Quote from claywilk: ... i do feel like this particular war was ill conceived by "chickenhawks" with personal agendas. ... Especially when you see how happy the theocracies are that we removed the secular thorn from their side. Happy OPEC ministers set production limits and more importantly ABIDE by the limits. Add an undefended dollar ( all oil is bought with dollars) to the mix and you see that we are getting raped. We are bearing almost the entire brunt of the sqeeze. ..Add the special fear that some of these kids I love so much are going to come bouncing in freshly enlisted to go face IED's. For what? So Bush can turn Iraq over to a bunch of Shiites? I don't know where he came up with that plan, even his daddy knew that Baathists are better than Shiites. Friend, this whole ordeal is a mess and unfortunately there is no good ending in sight. ...
Clay, I do not agree at all with most of your post, but respect your right to your views.Quote from claywilk:
I appreciate that, and I also appreciate you and your friends service. I am not a peacenik by nature and am not opposed to fighting arabs in the least ( Big Israel supporter). However, i do feel like this particular war was ill conceived by "chickenhawks" with personal agendas. I think it is evident everywhere from their smear campaigns, their obvious lies and misrepresentations, AND the money trail. I find it no coincidence that we send oil millionaires to Washington and suddenly find ourselves paying triple prices for oil. Especially when you see how happy the theocracies are that we removed the secular thorn from their side. Happy OPEC ministers set production limits and more importantly ABIDE by the limits. Add an undefended dollar ( all oil is bought with dollars) to the mix and you see that we are getting raped. We are bearing almost the entire brunt of the sqeeze. And even though they will wrap themselves in American Flags, these New World Order (Multi-nationalist) SOB's don't give a crap about America or Americans. Haliburton isn't even an American Company- Thanks be to their former CEO. Add the special fear that some of these kids I love so much are going to come bouncing in freshly enlisted to go face IED's. For what? So Bush can turn Iraq over to a bunch of Shiites? I don't know where he came up with that plan, even his daddy knew that Baathists are better than Shiites. Friend, this whole ordeal is a mess and unfortunately there is no good ending in sight. The best thing we could do here is to find Saddam Hussein innocent, restore him to power and get the hell out.
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
A Republican chickenhawk (George Allen) promoted as a presidential candidate made the mistake of impugning the patriotism of his Senate opponent over the flag-burning amendment. His Democratic opponent, Jim Webb, won the Navy Cross in Vietnam and a Webb spokesman let Allen have it:
"While Jim Webb and others of George Felix Allen Jr.'s generation were fighting for our freedoms and for our symbols of freedom in Vietnam, George Felix Allen Jr. was playing cowboy at a dude ranch in Nevada," Jarding said. "People who live in glass dude ranches should not question the patriotism of real soldiers who fought and bled for this country on a real battlefield."
http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2006/06/swiftboat_him_not.aspx
Quote from Pabst:
Z, why don't you share with us the details on how YOU avoided the draft.......
Quote from hapaboy:
Why not do some research on the government's position as to what it means to win in Iraq?
p.s. DailyKos, Michael Moore's website, and other moonbat sites are not the official government position on what it means to win in Iraq.