Oh, no beef really but now that you mention it , the laws of physics already support your metaphorical thread title so just not sure what Penrose's CCC / Ligo might do in that regard which isn't already done.You are referring to his purported explanation that consciousness somehow arises out of some tie to quantum mechanics. None of those far out theories have anything to do with CCC.
So I am not sure what your beef is.
No it doesn't. The current scientific theories of creation have no idea how you get such a low entropy initial state called the singularity....the laws of physics already support your metaphorical thread title so just not sure what Penrose's CCC / Ligo might do in that regard which isn't already done.
Current scientific theory explains how the singularity was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics. If that isn't "Killing the Creator" don't know what would be.No it doesn't. The current scientific theories of creation have no idea how you get such a low entropy initial state called the singularity.
CCCs get around that, which is what led Penrose to it in the first place. The apparent violation of the entire universe at the beginning of time of the SLOT.
No it doesn't. The current scientific theories of creation have no idea how you get such a low entropy initial state called the singularity.
CCCs get around that, which is what led Penrose to it in the first place. The apparent violation of the entire universe at the beginning of time of the SLOT.
You are both guilty of being blinded by your own cults.thanks for correcting stu on this...
he has a big bias in these discussions as I might... but I try and present the science as the scientists present it.
he always slants the science towards random creation until you pin him down and then he backpedals and bullshits to the thread goes away.
...while all the time remembering science doesn't point to a creator and if the universe seems so improbable and so special and so ordered then quite obviously a creator would have to be even more improbable and more special and more ordered so designed explains nothing at all.
You are both guilty of being blinded by your own cults.
Imagine how much more interesting this journey would be for both of you if instead of having some sort of preconceived belief, instead you simply followed the current theory, wherever it took us.
Fact is stranger than fiction, especially when it comes to Origins.