Killing People Like Soros: Kosher?

Quote from jonbig04:

Well maybe he's a war monger like you say, then we will just go to war in Pakistan like you said, and then we will be drafted like you said then the economy will be fine. So whats your beef with Obama? He is going to facilitate an economic meltdown or he is going to send us all to war in pakistan? You seem to be saying both are going to happen, but that doesnt seem possible.

I'd consider the irony that within a few years of warring in Afghanistan the U.S.S.R. was a memory.....
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

I'd consider the irony that within a few years of warring in Afghanistan the U.S.S.R. was a memory.....

True, but surely you cant be comparing the USSR then, with the US now.
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

For the longest time I've laughed my ass off at those shallow commentators who parrot, "our grandchildren will be paying the price of our excesses".


I was just hit last night by a liberal parroting the similar insult about conservatives wanting to " have it all and make our grandchildren pay".

I like your take, and I also have another one. As I showed on another thread this morning, the bottom half pay three percent of our tax revenues. Since the poor are the ones who want all the benefits of gov't largess, I told him that it is just as true, if not more true, that they are the ones who are guilty of the "get what I want and make someone else pay for it" mentality.

I wish some politician had the cojones to get in front of a microphone on tv and say so.
 
Great point. I noticed last night Obama was careful to say that "95% of those who pay taxes will see a reduction." His ORIGINAL tax proposal contained a perma-"stimulus check" to filers who had no Federal tax liability. Pretty tough to cut someone below zero.

McCain is just a HORRIBLE debater. He should have pointed out that just like many middle income investors-the rich too have seen MASSIVE dilution in asset value-and reliance on the Michael Dell's and Michael Moore's of the world to fill in the budget blanks will be increasingly futile. No one in their right mind thinks the average exec comp or NBA salary will be as high in 2010 as it was yesterday.


Quote from sho-tim:

I was just hit last night by a liberal parroting the similar insult about conservatives wanting to " have it all and make our grandchildren pay".

I like your take, and I also have another one. As I showed on another thread this morning, the bottom half pay three percent of our tax revenues. Since the poor are the ones who want all the benefits of gov't largess, I told him that it is just as true, if not more true, that they are the ones who are guilty of the "get what I want and make someone else pay for it" mentality.

I wish some politician had the cojones to get in front of a microphone on tv and say so.
 
If we go into a year or two of hyperinflation like I think we might I wonder how many will die in the US, or at least get really constipated from eating the government cheese...
 
Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

Great point. I noticed last night Obama was careful to say that "95% of those who pay taxes will see a reduction." His ORIGINAL tax proposal contained a perma-"stimulus check" to filers who had no Federal tax liability. Pretty tough to cut someone below zero.

McCain is just a HORRIBLE debater. He should have pointed out that just like many middle income investors-the rich too have seen MASSIVE dilution in asset value-and reliance on the Michael Dell's and Michael Moore's of the world to fill in the budget blanks will be increasingly futile. No one in their right mind thinks the average exec comp or NBA salary will be as high in 2010 as it was yesterday.


Obama is not that great either. I find myself shouting at the TV :(. Oh and you are right about the rich seeing their investments drop. However, its not like they are wondering where their house payments for the next 8 months are going to come from. Everybody has felt the affects, but to equate the rich's problems with that of the middle class does not work.
 
Pabst,

Your line of thought in today's age is much too parochial and narrow. There are some people I know (wink) that have already seceded from the American Experiment along ago. They've investing and placed their asset in all four corners of the globe. They've obtained multiple passports. And they have multiple domiciles for business and multiple abodes for pleasure. They are Sovereign…as was intended by the founders. They have a mild interest in American politics and they have a mild interest in global politics. They have virtually seceded in all aspects of their lives except physically …yet with one flight or one boat ride they physically secede as well.

However, for the remainder of time that I’m physically here you are welcome come up here at 6000ft with my 60 mile view and multiple snipers nests when the plan goes in to effect to separate America into “autonomous governing zones.” And then we’ll take shots at those crazed commy Kalifornian’s trying to sneak into the “Nevada Autonomous Region.” Those fuckers.

:D




Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

From a moral standpoint. We ALL advocate and vote for candidates who will employ strategies that will cause the deaths of thousands. If not Iraq then in Afghanistan or Pakistan or wherever. Terrorists often argue-and I agree-that each American taxpayer is de facto culpable for the actions of our government.

Terror can be a righteous act. Few other methods are available to the militarily weak when opposing the mighty. War is no more of a legitimate exercise than terror. Hence is a civil war-a cultural war-fought outside the rules of law immoral? Should the pursuit of justice be bounded by the artificial constraints of democratic action? What if the majority design the benefit of legality to harm an oppressed minority?

Many leftists (Iceman, Zhivodka) believe Bill Ayers had a legitimate right to use violence in opposition to the Vietnam War. Is their belief set correct? If not how does one create meaningful change within an unenlightened society? Some would say love it or leave it. Did Lincoln allow the South to just "leave?" Should the rebellious be forced to live as refugees? Is secession not a God given right granted to a sub-set minority?
 
Your coolest post ever bro!
Quote from Dr. Zhivodka:

Pabst,

Your line of thought in today's age is much too parochially and narrow. There are some people I know (wink) that have already seceded from the American Experiment along ago. They've investing and placed their asset in all four corners of the globe. They've obtained multiple passports. And they have multiple domiciles for business and multiple abodes for pleasure. They are Sovereign…as was intended by the founders. They have a mild interest in American politics and they have a mild interest in global politics. They have virtually seceded in all aspects of their lives except physically …yet with one flight or one boat ride they physically secede as well.

However, for the remainder of time that I’m physically here you are welcome come up here at 6000ft with my 60 mile view and multiple snipers nests when the plan goes in to effect to separate America into “autonomous governing zones.” And then we’ll take shots at those crazed commy Kalifornian’s trying to sneak into the “Nevada Autonomous Region.” Those fuckers.

:D
 
Quote from Gringinho:

Nice to see that alternative thinking is doing very well. That makes sure that ideas and suggestions never dry up.
:)

Gringho I often don't agree with you but you remind me of my Jesuit instructors. NO subject was taboo for argument and I learned A LOT from opposing, well reasoned, logically presented view points. I so dig intellectual revolutionaries like yourself. Unfortunately once I get beyond your lines about trust and technology my academic shortcomings shine through. :)
 
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