keystone trading group

[bstay]

Quote from BPtrader:

Quote from Amitabha:
bstay- how goes it at this point- are you using 100 dollar bills to light your cigars yet? How much are you making with keystone "trading" group?

yeah, answer the question by Amitabha, bstay.

i thought it was a stupid question. anyone u know lights cigars with 100 dollar bills? and someone uses a nickname (1st post) and i have to tell him how much i make?

the facts are there on the website (pricing & fees), whether u like Keystone or not why do u want to join the crew to spread untruths?

 

[BPtrader]

Quote from bstay:

yeah, answer the question by Amitabha, bstay.

the facts are there on the website (pricing & fees), whether u like Keystone or not why do u want to join the crew to spread untruths? [/QUOTE]

I didn't say anything about Keystone, I don't know anything about it.

Like Amitabha, I am curious about how much you make at Keystone. If you make money, that would be a sign that you didn't waste your training dollars.

 

[bstay]

the facts are there on the website (pricing & fees), whether u like Keystone or not why do u want to join the crew to spread untruths?

I didn't say anything about Keystone, I don't know anything about it.
Like Amitabha, I am curious about how much you make at Keystone. If you make money, that would be a sign that you didn't waste your training dollars.

training dollars are never wasted. what u need to differentiate is between getting more "information" or more "wisdom". what's most important is growing the skills to make money to pay bills. and then have spare time to argue on ET.

 

[OMoney]

bstay,

I believe that you have also had training at VCM/Team Trading for Life. I know you have mentioned being in their chat room. That's a lot of money for training to then go to keystone. If it wasn't working at VCM/TEAM it makes sense to move elsewhere.

I understand the majority never get beyond level I at VCM/TEAM. I think that is desinged into the business plan with very small daily cut off to insure that they don't give back much of the money that was paid for the class.

What did you learn at Keystone that made a difference if any?

 

[bstay]

Quote from OMoney:
bstay,
I believe that you have also had training at VCM/Team Trading for Life.

no, i did not join the prop program there. we are "independents" and outside member using the same chatroom as their prop traders. there are two chatrooms at VCM, the TrainingRoom is strictly for prop traders only. the other chatroom can be joined by outside members. prop traders get both rooms free-for-life.

i will pm u on the Keystone training details.

 

[dejavu8]

this firm is a joke.

 

[reggie808]

Dejavu, why do you say Keystone is a "joke"?

 

[BartS]

reggie, I think that a guy with 3 posts has to be taken lightly.

Since I trade with the firm, all i can say is that results will obviously vary from trader to trader, mostly based on levels of discipline and one's ability to stick to the trading plan.

90% of traders have no discipline, I still struggle with it myself but I can honestly say that there is a big difference in my decision making after spending 4 months with the firm.

I guess anyone interested in details can visit the website or call the firm and ask the questions, and see how things work for themselves.

Again it's personal opinion and I won't argue with the 3 post guy or anyone else.

If you're a new guy i'd say give them a shot.It's worth the call.

 

[Amitabha]

Bart S, are you making money over there?
I guess I have only posted twice so my question will be taken lightly(whatever that means) the question is not how good the training is, how nice the guys are, what it says on their website, or any other ultimately secondary info- have you even made the 5K back?

 

[Amitabha]

and bstay in response to your calling my question dumb- I also do not know anybody who lights cigars with money- it was sarcasm that I must admit was uncalled for- I am just looking for proof that these guys are or are not a good way to learn to trade- the only proof that would make them believable (at least for me) is that they can produce students who make good money- I have yet to see one shred of evidence of this. I see posts about how great the class is, how great the rebates are etc, but I have yet to see proof that they have consistantly produced quality traders.

IMO there is no such thing as a dumb question- but there are dumb ways to piss away 5000 dollars.