Kerviel faces up to five years in prison

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PWC ?? lol don't listen to what this bunch of kids just dropped of uni say... they aren't trustworthy.

If an accountant said it, then it's true.








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Quote from SNBthetrue:

Kerviel didn't make this loss. Let me explain :

The friday he was on a position with a nominal value of than 50billions in euros in dax and a lot of the indices. At the end of the day the manager "discovered" the exposure. And the monday !! when the us market was closed ?? they unwinded this mega position, moving the market and losing a lot more than during a normal business day.

The decision taken by management to close a losing fraudulent position asap was the right thing to do. Now you can debate as much as you want about the method used to unwind the positions, but there is no doubt that it had to be closed as soon as the market was to open to cut short the potentialy lethal market exposure.


This guys were arrogant enough ( french people )

This type of racial/national/ethnic stereotypes has no place on this board, and nowhere else for that matters. Next, you'll tell us that german people are all nazis, black people are inferior, etc... leave that narrow minded comments to kids.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism


to think that america can sleep and it will be as usual... so stupid... and don't forget they all had minimum master level at university... :D

Assuming that an institution that ranks in the top 10 Nyse PT Volume had not thought through the potential market impact caused by the unwinding of such a large position in these circumstances makes you look stupid. As explained above, their #1 priority was to close it immediately and, even in hindisght, it was the right move.

The bottom line is that whoever is responsible for this fraud (middle-office risk control, management, Kerviel, etc..) has brought disgrace on a trading community that had already bad press.
 
Quote from SNBthetrue:

Kerviel didn't make this loss. Let me explain :

The friday he was on a position with a nominal value of than 50billions in euros in dax and a lot of the indices. At the end of the day the manager "discovered" the exposure. And the monday !! when the us market was closed ?? they unwinded this mega position, moving the market and losing a lot more than during a normal business day. This guys were arrogant enough ( french people ) to think that america can sleep and it will be as usual... so stupid... and don't forget they all had minimum master level at university... :D

Btw nice ride for those on the other side... quite surprising I think...

Usually when you unwind a position in the morning in Europe, America is "sleeping"...LOL... But I agree they should have waited one day to get more counterparts.

The guy who unwinded the position (which was supposed to be socgen best trader )should also have anticipated his market impact and bought some puts/ volatility before...
 
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