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IIt is a trailing stop strategy based on different ATR (Chandelier_ATR, YoYo_ATR, profit point) and Parabolic_AF and Profit_Switch_Factor and other parameters. you can pick different setting for stocks, future and FX (the numbers are quite different from each other). It uses Globalvariable so you can visualize in backtest that at what price the trade is stopped out and choose whatever level of profit taking setting you like. The nice thing about it is it would tighten stop once the trade is in profit, so when the trend reverses it save a lot of points. I tried other ATR stop strategy but none really worked, finally I found the LeBeau stop and it works pretty well. It is in Tradestation Forum. You can easily find it.

Whoa! You are waaaaaaaay smarter than the average ET dumbass. You new or an alley-ass of a discredited old dog? Thanks for that explanation. If I am understanding you right, it sounds like a tight profit stop. If so, my objection is that trading is not like sex. In sex, you want tight. In trading, you want loose. I don't want my trades screaming in discomfort. Plus, this verges on the theological. I use EasySignal because I am too smart to need EasyLanguage. Plus, my experience is that Doaks trumps LeBeau every time. Quite the genius, that Doaks.


You can experiment with the key numbers (only 2-3) to pick the levels you like it. For example, you can pick a small number in certain parameter to give you 5 point or a larger number for 8 point profit, but it is NOT a fixed point ATR unlike the regular ATR stop strategy, it trails the trades automatically and smoothly. Another feature is that there are two or three systems work together to trail stop for the possibly best result. If one fails to catch the reversal, the another one will catch that.
 
Quote from dst888:

You can experiment with the key numbers (only 2-3) to pick the levels you like it. For example, you can pick a small number in certain parameter to give you 5 point or a larger number for 8 point profit, but it is NOT a fixed point ATR unlike the regular ATR stop strategy, it trails the trades automatically and smoothly. Another feature is that there are two or three systems work together to trail stop for the possibly best result. If one fails to catch the reversal, the another one will catch that.

Again, thanks for explaining. In my desperience tailing stops are reperior to rixed stops. But I will give you a big tip: backtested stops beat the shit out of anything else theoretical or empirical or intuitive. Me? An expert? (I read your post before you edited it.) I am an exspurt pretender. And I don't automate. It is much more fun to second guess the system. Come on, DST, fess up. You are not a native English speaker, 'though you fake it real good. Where are you from? English is not my native language either.
 
Quote from Arthur Deco:


I use Professor Joe Doaks' stop strategy. It is an unpublished method. Kindly educate a nearly blind wheelchair-bound old man averse to spending more than 30 seconds looking at others' approaches. What is LeBeau's? [/B]



Your professor Joe Doaks' stop strategy should be excellent as I follow the ET forum recently I can tell that you are a very successful expert in automation trading.
 
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Your professor Joe Doaks' stop strategy should be excellent as I follow the ET forum recently I can tell that you are a very successful expert in automation trading.
Ah yes, Doaks. He is an adjunct associate assistant visiting professor (untenured) of cybernetics and daytrading at the Collin County Community College Paris Texas agricultural extension service. Basically the service he provides is servicing fat rich old ladies who want to get richer trading futures. He tutors one on one, literally.
 
Quote from Arthur Deco:

Again, thanks for explaining. In my desperience tailing stops are reperior to rixed stops. But I will give you a big tip: backtested stops beat the shit out of anything else theoretical or empirical or intuitive. Me? An expert? (I read your post before you edited it.) I am an exspurt pretender. And I don't automate. It is much more fun to second guess the system. Come on, DST, fess up. You are not a native English speaker, 'though you fake it real good. Where are you from? English is not my native language either.


So you program your strategy and manually execute the trades? I see. I feel the same thing about automation and try to second guess the system.
No, I am not a native English speaker, that is why I tried to edit my post a little better and make fewer errors.
 
Confession is good for the soul, if you have one. You are doing fine. But what advice can you offer the OP? He is an intensely serious and dedicated and likeable guy struggling to perfect strategies that suit his personality. Give him some advice based on your own experience. I am immensely proud of him that he is doggedly struggling to find his own way.
 
Quote from Arthur Deco:

Ah yes, Doaks. He is an adjunct associate assistant visiting professor (untenured) of cybernetics and daytrading at the Collin County Community College Paris Texas agricultural extension service. Basically the service he provides is servicing fat rich old ladies who want to get richer trading futures. He tutors one on one, literally.


cybernetics professor? very interesting. I saw quite some people from non financial domain and pick up trading and became very successful. Thanks for the info.
 
Quote from dst888:

cybernetics professor? very interesting. I saw quite some people from non financial domain and pick up trading and became very successful. Thanks for the info.

Cybernetics need not be complicated. The term didn't even exist when I went to collich, which tells you how old I am. But one can devise a successful strategy based solely on the inverse of a thermostat. That is the secret of the Doaks ossicator. Doaks is good at optimozing deadbands because he is a Vietnam era hippie deadhead. "Why do you think they call it dope?" I can tell you that my best trading ideas coalesced from the fog of an alcoholic haze.
 
Quote from Arthur Deco:

Confession is good for the soul, if you have one. You are doing fine. But what advice can you offer the OP? He is an intensely serious and dedicated and likeable guy struggling to perfect strategies that suit his personality. Give him some advice based on your own experience. I am immensely proud of him that he is doggedly struggling to find his own way.


Honestly I don't think I am in a position to offer any advice. I am struggling in finding something that I can have consistent results. A robust and reliable strategy and a disciplined operator, that is the goal I am striving for at the moment.
On the other hand, I believe you have a lot to offer along his progress.
 
You are too kind. The best advice anyone can give him here is to affirm that it is possible starting with an outsider's total lack of trading insight and somehow spin success out of thin air. And also give him examples of what is achievable as he finds his own unique way. Best of luck to you doing the same. A modest first step is to ignore the advice on anyone on ET. Don't make me conjure up a mental image for you of what we may look like. Private traders are all losers, nut scratchers and nose pickers.
 
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