Originally posted by daniel_m
Soviets saved us? please. sure, they made massive contributions to the war effort, but after jun 44 it was practically a foregone conclusion that eastern european nations would win their freedom with or without the big reds.
Questionable, to put it mildly. But I'll let it slide...
How many of you (Eastern Europeans)were there to "win without the big reds"?
Or did you mean that other BIG nations would win (not without the US help)? Seems like the latter is more likely - in which case you should have said - "...eastern european nations would be given freedom". Semantics, maybe. But your ego should be careful not to take too much credit for others' efforts
Although, again, I might be somewhat biased and I do realize that other nations including the US took a significant part in the war, but if you look at any facts, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that if Germans didn't have so many forces tied up fighting (and losing to) the "big reds", the outcome would most likely have been different.
PS Russia/Ukraine etc are also considered "Eastern Europe", as much you Yugoslavs, Czechs, Polish and others in your "bloc" might not like it
PPS Maybe you should listen more carefully to what your dad has to say. After all, he did live more under that regime than you and you should give him the benefit of the doubt that he is smart enough to have his own opinion, and not just be reiterating what you assume was drummed into his head.
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