well i had a friend one of the bigger futures-traders in europe: he first started trading for one of the bigger firms then went out on his own. He was a big player, made something like 25 million euro's in basically 2 years a a floor trader. He lost it all when the markets went electronic and went bankrupt. Now he is cleaning windows for a living and he is never coming back 'playing' again ... that's no girl-talk, that's life ... but then again you are probably a 20-something who knows shit but talks big ...