Katrina a 5, Oil at?

Monday to Tuesday, oil TOUCHES at least?

  • $69

    Votes: 3 3.5%
  • $70

    Votes: 25 29.4%
  • $72+

    Votes: 47 55.3%
  • It will stay lower than $69

    Votes: 10 11.8%

  • Total voters
    85
  • Poll closed .
The Geopolitics of Katrina
A Category 5 hurricane, the most severe type measured, Katrina has been reported heading directly toward the city of New Orleans. This would be a human catastrophe, since New Orleans sits in a bowl below sea level. However, Katrina is not only moving on New Orleans. It also is moving on the Port of Southern Louisiana. Were it to strike directly and furiously, Katrina would not only take a massive human toll, but also an enormous geopolitical one.

The Port of Southern Louisiana is the fifth-largest port in the world in terms of tonnage, and the largest port in the United States. The only global ports larger are Singapore, Rotterdam, Shanghai and Hong Kong. It is bigger than Houston, Chiba and Nagoya, Antwerp and New York/New Jersey. It is a key link in U.S. imports and exports and critical to the global economy.

The Port of Southern Louisiana stretches up and down the Mississippi River for about 50 miles, running north and south of New Orleans from St. James to St. Charles Parish. It is the key port for the export of grains to the rest of the world -- corn, soybeans, wheat and animal feed. Midwestern farmers and global consumers depend on those exports. The United States imports crude oil, petrochemicals, steel, fertilizers and ores through the port. Fifteen percent of all U.S. exports by value go through the port. Nearly half of the exports go to Europe.

The Port of Southern Louisiana is a river port. It depends on the navigability of the Mississippi River. The Mississippi is notorious for changing its course, and in southern Louisiana -- indeed along much of its length -- levees both protect the land from its water and maintain its course and navigability. Dredging and other maintenance are constant and necessary to maintain its navigability. It is fragile.

If New Orleans is hit, the Port of Southern Louisiana, by definition, also will be hit. No one can predict the precise course of the storm or its consequences. However, if we speculate on worse-case scenarios the following consequences jump out:


The port might become in whole or part unusable if levees burst. If the damage to the river and port facilities could not be repaired within 30 days when the U.S. harvests are at their peak, the effect on global agricultural prices could be substantial.

There is a large refinery at Belle Chasse. It is the only refinery that is seriously threatened by the storm, but if it were to be inundated, 250,000 barrels per day would go off line. Moreover, the threat of environmental danger would be substantial.

About 2 percent of world crude production and roughly 25 percent of U.S.-produced crude comes from the Gulf of Mexico and already is affected by Katrina. Platforms in the path of Katrina have been evacuated but others continue pumping. If this follows normal patterns, most production will be back on line within hours or days. However, if a Category 5 hurricane (of which there have only been three others in history) has a different effect, the damage could be longer lasting. Depending on the effect on the Port of Southern Louisiana, the ability to ship could be affected.

A narrow, two-lane highway that handles approximately 10,000 vehicles a day, is used for transport of cargo and petroleum products and provides port access for thousands of employees is threatened with closure. A closure of as long as two weeks could rapidly push gasoline prices higher.

At a time when oil prices are in the mid-60-dollar range and starting to hurt, the hurricane has an obvious effect. However, it must be borne in mind that the Mississippi remains a key American shipping route, particularly for the export and import of a variety of primary commodities from grain to oil, as well as steel and rubber. Andrew Jackson fought hard to keep the British from taking New Orleans because he knew it was the main artery for U.S. trade with the world. He was right and its role has not changed since then.

This is not a prediction. We do not know the path of the storm and we cannot predict its effects. It is a warning that if a Category 5 hurricane hits the Port of Southern Louisiana and causes the damage that is merely at the outer reach of the probable, the effect on the global system will be substantial.

from Stratfor.com
 
in my humble opinion, the smart money will offload as much freaking oil at 70+ as it can because it knows that oil's worth about half that.
 
Quote from aPismoClam:

in my humble opinion, the smart money will offload as much freaking oil at 70+ as it can because it knows that oil's worth about half that.


:D :D :D :D
 
Quote from petrotrader:

What do you think this would accomplish? It would be a short term fix, most likely very short term, at best.

Are you familar with the data released by the EIA each Wednesday?

so whats the purpose of having the spr if it won't be used? is this not an emergency?
 
Quote from protrader-2K5:

With the storm now rated at at 5, 160 mph winds... turning for a direct hit at the Mississippi River....

Where do you think oil will go? Remember that it will trade in the overnight before opening?

Oil closed at $66 and some change...

I think the simple shock of the hurricane will send oil through $70 and then sell off albeit for only a few days befor resuming it climb.

Thoughts?
Crude oil futures are up over $3.50 and were up over $4.50 to $70.80 due to the damage and expected damage of Hurricane Katrina. http://alaron.com/quotes.php?action=chart&iFSsymbols=CLV05
 
Quote from steeldust:

so whats the purpose of having the spr if it won't be used? is this not an emergency?

Of course it should be used... But Bush lives in his own little reality and might not always do the smart and right thing.

Bush may see the SPR strickly from a military POV. So if he releases it now, he may not have enough to fuel his armies just in case China makes a sneak attack or something just as insane.
 
Quote from The Kin:

Of course it should be used... But Bush lives in his own little reality and might not always do the smart and right thing.

Bush may see the SPR strickly from a military POV. So if he releases it now, he may not have enough to fuel his armies just in case China makes a sneak attack or something just as insane.

What little reality do you live in?

<a href="http://www.fe.doe.gov/programs/reserves/spr/spr-drawdown.html">The 2004 Huricane Ivan Exchange. </a> Hurricane Ivan struck the Gulf of Mexico in mid-September 2004 and disrupted both Outer Continental Shelf production and import vessels delivering cargoes to Gulf terminals. Most of the production shut in was in the fields east of Louisiana and was sweet oil used in refining gasoline and distillate products. The Department of Energy received several emergency requests from refiners for assistance in securing supplies of crude oil adequate to avoid cutting back on refining operations. To relieve their shortages, the SPR loaned a total of 5.4 million barrels of sweet crude oil to five companies (Placid Refining, Shell Trading, Conoco Phillips, Astra Oil, and Premcor). The crude oil was delivered to the refiners during September and early October 2004. By April 2005, the loaned oil had been repaid to the SPR, plus 233,924 premium barrels paid to the Government in return for the time-exchange. (See November 8, 2004, Techline)
 
Quote from aPismoClam:

What little reality do you live in?


The 2004 Huricane Ivan Exchange. Hurricane Ivan struck the Gulf of Mexico in mid-September 2004 and disrupted both Outer Continental Shelf production and import vessels delivering cargoes to Gulf terminals. Most of the production shut in was in the fields east of Louisiana and was sweet oil used in refining gasoline and distillate products. The Department of Energy received several emergency requests from refiners for assistance in securing supplies of crude oil adequate to avoid cutting back on refining operations. To relieve their shortages, the SPR loaned a total of 5.4 million barrels of sweet crude oil to five companies (Placid Refining, Shell Trading, Conoco Phillips, Astra Oil, and Premcor). The crude oil was delivered to the refiners during September and early October 2004. By April 2005, the loaned oil had been repaid to the SPR, plus 233,924 premium barrels paid to the Government in return for the time-exchange. (See November 8, 2004, Techline)

Exactly. It can and most likely will be used in this manner but I assumed that bestfriend (correct me if i am wrong) was implying that the SPR should be used in order to push crude prices lower, not for hurricane related supply issues. I guess the question that needs to be asked is, would you advocate releasing crude from the SPR if there wasn't a hurricane?

Furthermore, it's worth noting that domestic crude oil stocks, excluding the SPR, are ~13% higher than a year ago.
 
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