Quote from Free Thinker:
christian are so frigging stupid they cant even get their superstitions right. all these years they have been quaking in fear over the number 666. turns out the real number is 616.
"A newly discovered fragment of the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament indicates that, as far as the Antichrist goes, theologians, scholars, heavy metal groups, and television evangelists have got the wrong number. Instead of 666, it's actually the far less ominous 616.
The new fragment from the Book of Revelation, written in ancient Greek and dating from the late third century, is part of a hoard of previously unintelligible manuscripts discovered in historic dumps outside Oxyrhynchus in Egypt. Now a team of expert classicists, using new photographic techniques, are finally deciphering the original writing.
Professor David Parker, Professor of New Testament Textual Criticism and Paleography at the University of Birmingham, thinks that 616, although less memorable than 666, is the original. He said: "This is an example of gematria, where numbers are based on the numerical values of letters in people's names. Early Christians would use numbers to hide the identity of people who they were attacking: 616 refers to the Emperor Caligula."
The Book of Revelation is traditionally considered to be written by John, a disciple of Jesus; it identifies 666 as the mark of the Antichrist. In America, the fundamentalist Christian right often use the number in sermons about the coming Apocalypse."
Quote from peilthetraveler:
This further goes to show you are the complete opposite of your name. You are a very biased thinker(not even sure "thinker" should be in your name.) You take 1 guy who THINKS that the number is 616 as your evidence that Christians got the number wrong. Where did this professor get the idea that the number is 616...Oh yeah...it says right there...from a "hoard of previously unintelligible manuscripts discovered in historic dumps". So you believe that information that came from a dump site, over the 1000s of other manuscripts found that were not found in dumpsites?
How much damage can water and erosion do over a millenia anyway? Its comical that you use this kind of stuff as your evidence for a Christians stupidity when this information actually becomes evidence for your own stupidity.

Quote from peilthetraveler:
This further goes to show you are the complete opposite of your name. You are a very biased thinker(not even sure "thinker" should be in your name.) You take 1 guy who THINKS that the number is 616 as your evidence that Christians got the number wrong. Where did this professor get the idea that the number is 616...Oh yeah...it says right there...from a "hoard of previously unintelligible manuscripts discovered in historic dumps". So you believe that information that came from a dump site, over the 1000s of other manuscripts found that were not found in dumpsites?
if enlightened people dont speak up the stupid people will take over. someone has to save our nation from the likes of people like you.Quote from RCG Trader:
Free Thinker and his ilk are usually damaged souls. The script goes like this:
1. They were believers.
2. They played by the rules.
3. But something happened....God did not heal an amputee or something.
4. Then they undergo a reaction formation.
5. Everyone who believes is a God is officially stupid because God will only let them down, just like He did with the now non-believer.
As a consequence of this script, the newly formed atheist is more fervent as to convincing people that there is no God than believers are.
Take this Free Thinker. This thread had nothing to do with him, as he is a non-believer and this was obviously aimed at believers and agnostics.
However, the actually Enslaved Thinker is compelled to cast dispersion on this discussion because of the aforementioned reasons.
It's kind of like crashing a birthday party of some random individual because the party crasher never had a birthday party for themselves.![]()
Quote from Free Thinker:
if enlightened people dont speak up the stupid people will take over. someone has to save our nation from the likes of people like you.
do you have the intellectual capacity to even understand why "god has never healed an amputee" is important?
@ FreeThinker the Enlightened Super Hero, here to Save us from our personal Saviour!!!

Quote from Free Thinker:
if enlightened people dont speak up the stupid people will take over. someone has to save our nation from the likes of people like you.
do you have the intellectual capacity to even understand why "god has never healed an amputee" is important?
Quote from Ricter:
Guilty as charged, sir!