Quote from OccupyThis:
[B the mandate is not a legal command to buy insurance.Rather, it makes going without insurance just another thing the Government taxes, like buying gasoline or earning income. [/B]
Some say storm windows "pay for themselves" (salesmen no doubt), but I don't know that for certain. I think they only need to pay for the difference between themselves and ordinary windows, plus a penny, to make them more productive.Quote from Mav88:
Really?
storm windows = higher productivity, and opportunity costs are less than increased output
proof please
so what he's saying is the govt has the power to tax nothing. buying gas and earning income is participating in something, its acting to DO something, (make money, consume fuel)
NOT owning insurance isn't DOING anything, how can you tax doing nothing?
Maybe i'm completely stupid, but i just dont get it.
Quote from piezoe:
They didn't. They said in effect that Congress could tax you, and as an incentive to buy health insurance, they could offer not to tax you.
This is the exact equivalent of say a tax credit as an incentive for buying storm windows, for example. You can choose to pay a tax equal to the credit you would receive if you were to buy storm windows, or you can choose to buy storm windows and not pay the tax equivalent to your credit.
There are many parallel examples. The court got this one exactly right -- surprising me at least. The court recognized that what opponents of the ACA insisted on calling a mandate, was not a mandate but a choice -- ironically had the tax penalty not been there, there would have been no choice, and a requirement to buy insurance would have then become an unconstitutional mandate!
The court let the Obama administration off the hook legally and on to the hook politically by correctly pointing out that in effect the law provided a choice between a tax and buying health insurance, whereas the administration had called the "tax" a penalty. I suppose that was because of the political liability associated with the "T"-word. But personally I don't see the word "penalty" as any more appealing than the "T"-word.
Your problem is that you far overestimate the "content" of your posts. That you would actually take them seriously is just sad
Quote from OccupyThis:
So, Obama will be taxing those in financial distress, underemployed, unemployed, part time job holders, etc, Obama will be taking more money away from them unless they give money to the private health insurance business.
Some say storm windows "pay for themselves" (salesmen no doubt), but I don't know that for certain. I think they only need to pay for the difference between themselves and ordinary windows, plus a penny, to make them more productive.
Ordinarily you wouldn't be told what kind, unless it's an urgent matter.Quote from Mav88:
productivity can only be increased with more efficient tools of production strictly speaking, home windows have nothing to do with that.
Why should you get to tell me what kind of windows to buy on my home?