Justice Alito exposes the hypocrisy of liberal double-standards

The US is basically nuts right now with this liberal vs conservative nonsense. You never see this kind of conversation in Canada, there is no attempt to categorize people by their political beliefs and in particular these polarizing "us vs them" talking points.

Why don't you take a close look at the recent Harper vs. Trudeau election before you make absurd statements like 'in Canada, there is no attempt to categorize people by their political beliefs and in particular these polarizing "us vs them" talking points'.
 
I thought for sure this was fake.
How could an attorney smart enough to argue in front of the US Supreme Court ... argue so poorly. I thought his answers were a joke... I promise. I just did a google search and did not stop until I read it in the new york times. I was expecting this was a viral email and would be snopesed. .

I must apologize to smart liberals.
I really thought they knew they were full of shit but just choosing to the follow the party line. I therefore thought they had zero integrity.

I now realize after reading this... they many may have no idea how blind they are to reality... is it possible some of the trolls here just don't see and think in terms of facts and reality?

I wonder if the lefties don't even see essentially what a moron that attorney was. He was so left and blind as he was trying to honestly answer the questions... he was failing as an attorney.


You criticizing other attorneys is hilarious.You're a birther who believed orly tatiz and other birther lawyers would Obama out of office for the birther BS LOL!!!
 
Tony is a dnc troll who thinks every white person who is not pre commie facist lefty is a racist.
He lies about what others write. I have to tell him this all the time because he consistently lies about it....

I am not birther, I don't doubt the legitimacy of Obama's presidency. (why do are is it that so many of the lefties lie about the other sides arguments.)

bir·ther
ˈbərTHər/
noun
informal
  1. a person who doubts the legitimacy of Barack Obama's presidency because of a conspiracy theory that Obama is not a natural-born US citizen.
With respect to the definition of what an NBC is....
I have to explain to you that NBC has not been defined by a the Sup Court. However, that does not mean I doubt the legitimacy of Obama's presidency. So Tony you are an asshole to keep calling me a birther once a month.

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tony wrote

"You criticizing other attorneys is hilarious.You're a birther who believed orly tatiz and other birther lawyers would Obama out of office for the birther BS LOL!!! "
 
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Tony is a dnc troll who thinks every white person who is not pre commie facist lefty is a racist.
He lies about what others write. I have to tell him this all the time because he consistently lies about it....

I am not birther, I don't doubt the legitimacy of Obama's presidency. (why do are is it that so many of the lefties lie about the other sides arguments.)

bir·ther
ˈbərTHər/
noun
informal
  1. a person who doubts the legitimacy of Barack Obama's presidency because of a conspiracy theory that Obama is not a natural-born US citizen.
With respect to the definition of what an NBC is....
I have to explain to you that NBC has not been defined by a the Sup Court. However, that does not mean I doubt the legitimacy of Obama's presidency. So Tony you are an asshole to keep calling me a birther once a month.

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tony wrote

"You criticizing other attorneys is hilarious.You're a birther who believed orly tatiz and other birther lawyers would Obama out of office for the birther BS LOL!!! "

1.Jem says he has Tony on ignore but responds to Tony's posts.





2.Jem says he's not a birther but...


"When Obama can't qualify for the ballot in a bunch of states - it will be hillary vs palin."-jem

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And there are many more birther post from Jem
 
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that does not mean I was birther tony you fricken troll... that was banter... show that date of that post...

I had numerous threads on the subject back then where I explained that I
1. the supreme court would have to define Natural Born Citizen
2. that I did not know where he was born and neither does anyone else outside his family until it was tested in court...

3. it turns out when it was to be tested in court ... he defaulted.
(But that does not mean he was not a legitimate president. He clearly was. so you calling me a birther is an asshole troll move.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_eligibility_litigation


Several Georgian citizens (Carl Swensson and another Georgian represented by Georgia state representative Mark Hatfield, a Georgian represented by Taitz, and a Georgian represented by Van Irion) filed challenges with the Georgia Secretary of State, Brian Kemp, regarding Obama's inclusion on the March primary ballot.[126] Kemp referred the challenges to Deputy Chief Judge Michael Malihi, an administrative law judge, who denied Obama's motion to dismiss them and scheduled a hearing for January 26, 2012.[127]

On January 23, 2012, Malihi denied Obama's motion to quash a subpoena issued by Taitz to compel Obama to appear, saying that Obama did not show why he should not be at the hearing or how his testimony would not be helpful.[128] On January 25, Obama's attorney requested that Kemp halt the proceedings, and indicated that Obama would no longer participate in the litigation pending Kemp's decision.[129] Kemp denied their request and warned that their non-participation would be "at your own peril".[130]

Neither Obama nor his attorney appeared at the January 26 hearing. This normally would result in a default order, but the challengers requested Malihi to allow them to go ahead with the hearing and rule on "the merits of their arguments and evidence".[131][132] Taitz called eight witnesses (including herself), and presented seven exhibits in support of her claims that Obama was not a natural-born citizen, has used multiple names, has multiple Social Security numbers, and used a fake birth certificate. Taitz asked Malihi to find Obama in contempt for failing to appear.[133][134][135]
 
by the way this is why I call tony a dnc troll.
its part of the dnc troll ashhole playbook.

when the left is getting skewered changed the subject even if you have to lie about what people post.

I won't check another browser to see what you say.
 
that does not mean I was birther

"1. Lets not forget his Dad was not American, his mom lived all over and he was educated in part outside the U.S.

2. If you told me Clinton or Bush's Dad was Swiss we would all wonder if they were american.

3. People did challenge McCain and he did jump through some hopes... and I do not know if he is a Natural Born citizen.

4. Its not a question of voting, its a question of eligiblity for the office. As Trump says I hope Obama can prove it when the states make him qualify for their elections." - Jem
 
I am not birther

"I heard him on CCN...
He made a ton of sense.

No hospital records any HI hospitals, even though they have records from other people at the time?

He brought up the fact the grandmother said he was born in Kenya.
Then the cnn newsanchor said it was a mis translation.
He then said of course it was, it just the right tone."-Jem
 
3. it turns out when it was to be tested in court ...




Hollister v. Soetoro

On March 5, 2009, a lawsuit filed by Philip Berg on behalf of Gregory S. Hollister, a retired Air Force colonel, against Barack Obama (referenced as "Barry Soetoro", the name given at the time of his enrollment in an Indonesian elementary school). The suit was dismissed in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. The presiding judge, James Robertson, said the case was a waste of the court's time, calling Berg and another lawyer "agents provocateurs" and their local counsel, John Hemenway, "a foot soldier in their crusade." He ordered Hemenway to show cause why he should not pay the legal fees for Obama's attorney as a penalty for filing a complaint "for an improper purpose such as to harass".[43] The district court ultimately reprimanded Hemenway for his actions, and the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit upheld the dismissal of the case and Hemenway's reprimand.[26] On January 18, 2011, the U.S. Supreme Court declined, without comment, to hear the case.[44]




Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz

On October 31, 2008, Greenwich resident and health food store owner Cort Wrotnowski filed a suit in the Connecticut Supreme Court against then Secretary of State Susan Bysiewicz challenging the authenticity of presidential candidate Obama's Hawaii birth certificate. The suit was dismissed after initial hearings.[88]

Wrotnowski appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court on November 25,[89] contending that the British citizenship of Obama's father made the president-elect ineligible to assume office. Leo Donofrio, whose earlier case against Obama's eligibility had been turned down, assisted Wrotnowski's Supreme Court appeal.[90] The request for stay or injunction was denied without comment on December 15, 2008.[89][91] Thomas Goldstein, who has argued numerous cases before the court and covers Supreme Court cases, commented that "The law has always been understood to be, if you are born here, you're a natural born citizen. And that is particularly true in this case, when you have a U.S. citizen parent like Barack Obama's mother".[91]


Keyes v. Bowen

On November 14, 2008, Alan Keyes and Markham Robinson, chairman of the American Independent Party and a California candidate for president elector, filed a lawsuit requesting that Obama provide documentation that he is a natural-born citizen of the United States.[92][93][94][95] Keyes also said in an interview that he would not be in favor of amending this requirement of the Constitution.[96] Keyes asserts that statements by Obama's paternal step-grandmother "raise doubts as to whether Barack Obama is in fact a natural born U.S. citizen, eligible to be president."[97][98][99]

California Superior Court Judge Michael P. Kenny sustained, without leave to amend, Secretary Bowen's and Obama's demurrers on Keyes' petition for writ of mandate and granted Obama's motion to quash the subpoena. Keyes was found not to be entitled to the records he sought, thereby declaring the case moot.[100][101] The California Court of Appeal affirmed the dismissal on October 25, 2010.[102] The California Supreme Court declined, without comment, to review the case on February 2, 2011.[103] On October 3, 2011, the U.S. Supreme Court declined, without comment, to hear the case.










http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...0-000-fine-frivolous-lawsuit-article-1.205638


'Birther' leader Orly Taitz ordered by Supreme Court to pay $20,000 fine for 'frivolous' lawsuit


Supreme Court tells “birther" leader to pay up

A leader of the generally ridiculed movement which believes President Obama was not born in the United States must pay a $20,000 fine she was slapped with in 2009, the nation’s highest court ruled Monday.

Orly Taitz, a dentist and lawyer in California, received the fine for a lawsuit she filed in Georgia on behalf of Army Capt. Connie Rhodes, who refused to be deployed to Iraq, arguing that the orders weren't legitimate since Obama is not eligible to be President.

The judge in that case called the lawsuit "frivolous," and accused Taitz of wasting the court's time.

"The Court finds that counsel's conduct was willful and not merely negligent," Judge Clay Land said in a statement in October. "It demonstrates bad faith on her part. As an attorney, she is deemed to have known better."

The judge added: "Counsel's frivolous and sanctionable conduct wasted the defendant’s time and valuable judicial resources that could have been devoted to legitimate cases pending with the Court."

 
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