Just to prove gun control nuts are full of shit

[RedDuke]

Quote from Lucrum:

Not necessarily, though I think I see you point.
Do we know if anyone has even tried? I mean simply "banning" something does not prevent people from getting their hands on it.

True, but it is a making it extremely hard to get one when it is a serious ban that has been in place for a long time.

Serious criminals do not have any intentions of bringing down the planes, psychos have no ways of obtaining rockets. Terrorists who might try to obtain them on black market, will most probably be sold out to government for some favors. The ban does work.

 

[Trader666]

Bump. No reply coward?

Quote from Trader666:

Tell it to the Army then, he who admits he's never served. It's a basic soldiers' skill. It's not easy but under the right conditions and with a little luck a group of soldiers with rifles can take down almost anything. Your ignorance and stupidity are exceeded only by your arrogance.

Quote from RedDuke:

Sorry, this is definitely my last response to you. I just almost fell of my chair when I saw it.

Speaking of ignorance. WOW!!!

Let me break news to you sport, yes planes from WW1 and some from early days of WW2 could be. I bet anyone who will read this, will think that it is the funniest post of a day or a week.

Bringing down a modern day plane with a rifle shot

Dude, you intelligence level is quite obvious now without any reasonable doubt.

 

[RedDuke]

Quote from Lucrum:

My point being that a government "ban" does NOT prevent those that really want something from getting their hands on it. Be it semi auto rifles, missiles, drugs, alcohol what ever - you name it.

The Columbine HS shooters violated no less than 20 firearms laws obtaining their weapons. The laws didn't even slow them down.

I agree that certain things just can not be banned. Drugs for example, too many people willing to pay to have whatever enjoying they get out of them.

Missiles are banned, and so far so good.

Rifles and high capacity clips,who knows? It will take a generation after the ban to clearly see if it works or not, since there is no way there would be a confiscation after the ban.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from RedDuke:

True, but it is a making it extremely hard to get one when it is a serious ban that has been in place for a long time.

Alcohol was banned here once by constitutional amendment no less. It stopped NO ONE from drinking that didn't want to. Most recreational drugs have been banned for decades.
I don't see drug users doing without, do you?

...psychos have no ways of obtaining rockets.

Sure they do

Terrorists who might try to obtain them on black market, will most probably be sold out to government for some favors.

Maybe, but pure speculation on your part.

The ban does work.

It's "worked" so far yes. But if someone was determined to get a shoulder fired rocket they could. With our porous borders they could easily bring it into the country. Given the gross incompetence of Homeland security/ TSA they could also easily get close enough to a major airport. Remember the jet ski guy at JFK recently? Frankly I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.

 

[Trader666]

You're debating a delusional fanatic who is immune to facts and logic and doesn't even know what he doesn't know.

Quote from Lucrum:

Alcohol was banned here once by constitutional amendment no less. It stopped NO ONE from drinking that didn't want to. Most recreational drugs have been banned for decades.
I don't see drug users doing without, do you?

Sure they do Maybe, but pure speculation on your part.It's "worked" so far yes. But if someone was determined to get a shoulder fired rocket they could. With our porous borders they could easily brink it into the country. Given the gross incompetence of Homeland security/ TSA they could also easily get close enough to a major airport. Remember the jet ski guy at JFK recently? Frankly I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.

 

[Trader666]

That's because you're an ignorant blowhard who's never served and you don't even realize it's a basic soldiers' skill in the Army.

Quote from RedDuke:

Well, I would say the odds of that happening will be around the odds of winning a lottery. Bringing down two......

 

[RedDuke]

Quote from BSAM:

The military will use those banners to say, "We surrender" when the sharpshooters start knocking the USAF out of the sky with their BB guns.
LMAO

Yeah, still laughing at a possibility of shooting something like F-16 or F/A-18 at 20,000-30,000 altitude with a rifle. And instead of saying, oops, I just typed before giving it much thought, he keeps defending it with some macho BS.

 

[pspr]

Quote from Trader666:

That's because you're an ignorant blowhard who's never served and you don't even realize it's a basic soldiers' skill in the Army.

LOL Arguing with the Duke is an exercise in futility. Like futurecurrent his is all knowledgeable (LOL) and incapable of seeing the flaws in his arguments. But, that doesn't stop him from defending his scripture on a constant and never ending basis. One can only hope that he sees the light when reality slaps him upside his face but once again.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from RedDuke:

Yeah, still laughing at a possibility of shooting something like F-16 or F/A-18 at 20,000-30,000 altitude with a rifle. And instead of saying, oops, I just typed before giving it much thought, he keeps defending it with some macho BS.

I wasn't referring to modern fighters either. My now dead ex father in law witnessed a Japanese zero being shot down with an M1 Garand during WWII.

 

[RedDuke]

Quote from Lucrum:

Alcohol was banned here once by constitutional amendment no less. It stopped NO ONE from drinking that didn't want to. Most recreational drugs have been banned for decades.
I don't see drug users doing without, do you?

Sure they do Maybe, but pure speculation on your part.It's "worked" so far yes. But if someone was determined to get a shoulder fired rocket they could. With our porous borders they could easily bring it into the country. Given the gross incompetence of Homeland security/ TSA they could also easily get close enough to a major airport. Remember the jet ski guy at JFK recently? Frankly I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.

Come on, you like to talk about facts, and the fact is no plane was ever brought down on us soil via a missile after end of WW2. I can bet we have some people on our soil who would love to do it, yet it is extremely hard if not impossible to obtain a rocket. Imagine if shoulder rockets were legal?

It makes sense to ban certain things where others it does not.