Quote from Tsing Tao:
Lives cannot be saved, as no criminal would be dissuaded. You're deluding yourself.
Quote from CaptainObvious:
All I'm pointing out is that the country has shifted left, be it right or wrong. Now republicans can take the hard line approach and keep getting their heads handed to them with every election cycle, or they can try to keep their seat at the table with some compromise.
Like I stated earlier, it's all just window dressing, but the repubs have a tough choice. They can be part of designing the left leaning window, admittedly not their first choice, or they can get the door slammed in their face and take what comes. Republicans are in a very tough spot, frankly most of it their own doing. We're still seeing the reverberations of the Bush administration. The guy was a monumental fuck up, so much so that the country was willing to elect an inexperienced black guy with leftist tendendcies...TWICE.
Wrong. First of all it was Pelosi and Reid who were the monumental fuck ups and still are. At least we've sidelined one of themQuote from CaptainObvious:
We're still seeing the reverberations of the Bush administration. The guy was a monumental fuck up, so much so that the country was willing to elect an inexperienced black guy with leftist tendendcies...TWICE.
Quote from pspr:
Wrong. First of all it was Pelosi and Reid who were the monumental fuck ups and still are. At least we've sidelined one of them
And, it was the Democraps who mostly caused the financial collapse with their insistence on their stupid minority loan programs and fanny and freddy fuck ups. That is well documented.
I didn't see the Democraps try to compromise during the Bush years. It was constant liberal denial and vulgar language even from the House and Senate. So don't give me that bull shit that Republicans need to divest themselves of their values and give in to liberal policies.
You and I both know that the only reason Obama got elected is because Democraps successfully pinned the collapse on Bush instead of liberals where it belonged. And the only reason he is still in is because he promised shit to every minority and low class lazy asshole in this country. It is clearly obvious that the parasite class has been cultivated and grown with liberal policies over the recent decades. That class of low life voter has reached the tipping point with Obama.
The conservative motto needs to be "Compromise on nothing. Fight this destructive, evil trend before we completely lose America and what it stands for."
This country is nearly EVENLY divided. So, don't think that the 47% who voted for Romney deserve any less than for conservatives to carry on the fight as hard as ever.
Quote from pspr:
Wrong. First of all it was Pelosi and Reid who were the monumental fuck ups and still are. At least we've sidelined one of them
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
Well stated.
Why is it always our side who has to compromise? When do the liberals ever compromise? If they lose, they scrape themselves up off the floor and come back to fight the very same issue over and over. Eventually, like water wearing away a stone, they succeed.
I'm just saying, any republican who backstabs us on this can kiss his career goodbye. There is just no excuse for them going wobbly. They can prevent it even coming up for a vote in the Senate with a filibuster. Boehner can block any bill in the House he doesn't like from gettting a vote. So the whole idea is a ridiculous nonstarter, provided the republicans don't go yellow. If they do, we will be coming for them next election.